In this episode Dula and myself interview a creative who I have been watching for years. Carlos a.k.a. @CLASSICMATERIALNY on Instagram has been inspiring me with his East Coast hip-hop inspired clothing. From hats hoodies shirts inspired by retro hip-hop, Carlos has done it all. We get his origin stories and exchange how him and Dula are 6° of separation from a lot of people. We also get a great story on how he started video directing by happenstance. Great hip-hop conversation. Enjoy.