In this episode, Dean sits down with Matt Stinson, Executive Director of Finance and Operations at Colonial Village Presbyterian Church, to explore the heart behind church administration.

Matt shares his story of transitioning from the business world into full-time church operations, offering thoughtful reflections on the distinct challenges – and opportunities – of managing the practical life of a congregation. Together, he and Dean discuss how executive pastors and administrative leaders can serve both the mission of the church and the people in the pews.

Whether you're in church leadership or simply curious about the unseen work that keeps ministry running, this conversation offers wisdom, encouragement, and a glimpse into what faithfulness looks like behind the scenes.