Anonymous male recorded 21/11/2019

In this second episode I talk to a poet and university lecturer about academia and creative working. We discuss how higher learning has changed in recent times and the shape of its ongoing uneasy fit with both art and commerce. We talk about the changing landscape of being creative, being educated and making money. We look at the experience of moving to London to find work, the narrative of being a struggling artist, the notion of toil and we agree that we should get paid for our data.

Links for topics discussed:  

Studs Terkel https://studsterkel.wfmt.com/ https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/59649.Working

Education for Socially Engaged Art: A Materials and Techniques Handbook by Pablo Helguera https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/14058499-education-for-socially-engaged-art

Mudlark: In Search of London’s Past Along the River Thames by Lara Maiklem https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/40180049-mudlark

Jaron Lanier https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Np5ri-KktNs&t=6s