Oceanside California Lieutenant Travis Norton sits down with Brent Stratton and Marcus Sprague to discuss the common problems we all face during adversarial-based mass casualty incidents, and what we need to learn before it comes to our town. Travis recently completed his Master’s thesis on this topic, and he also teaches for the NTOA throughout the country and shares his experiences traveling throughout the world for the CATO After Action Review project. In this episode, Travis will also debunk some training myths and stresses the importance of principle-based decision-making based upon lessons learned from real-life events.