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This episode was recorded at a picnic bench in the woods as part of the annual MoF/RV Patreon camping trip. Please join us while Gillian and Phil have a chance to sit and visit with a couple of other friends about how to live in a world where often our values and lifestyle don't quite fit in, making us all happy outcasts.

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