We take a break from the book report to talk about the ongoing UFO conversation happening in the mainstream right now. Russ gives a synopsis of Jacques Vallee's new book, TRINITY: The Best-Kept Secret, that he co-authored with Paola Harris, about a possible crash in the New Mexico desert several years before the infamous Roswell incident.

We also discuss Vallee's previous works, which Russ has been re-reading, and how utterly strange this phenomena is, and how the current "disclosure", whatever it may end up disclosing, cannot possibly approach the true strangeness, or breadth and scope, of the "UFO" phenomena. In the final segment we read some Listener Communications.