It’s the soft ending of the podcast you’ve come to know and like over the past 12 years and joining me for this rude surprise is Nick, Wiggo and Alyson for the last time . . . maybe. We talk about stopping things we’ve enjoyed, and the need to pivot and pivot and pivot. We also talk a fair bit about chafe. Thank you for listening.

(67 mins – Right click / long press here to download – 4/7/25)