Traditional cider is getting pretty big in New York State and around the country, but although Kyle Sherrer's cider is rooted in tradition, this cider is anything but. Chris and Mary join Kyle Sherrer and David Hall at Graft's popup in Newburgh to talk about the cidery's start, its trajectory, and its focus on flavors and technique to get complex and unique flavors out of simple fruits and yeasts. Hear of Kyle’s history with Millstone, beer influences, and how it has all driven him to expression through apples and art at Graft.