Kyle and Linda interview Doug Franklin of LeaderTreks. They tackle the topics of leadership, discipleship, relationships and more. Doug discusses how we can develop student leaders, and why it is so important to do so! They also address youth pastors who may be hesitant to give leadership to others. Doug makes the case that building up student leaders gives them a sense of ownership and allows the youth ministry, and ultimately the Church, to thrive. This episode also makes the case that transformation happens in relationships and small groups and provides encouragement to those working in smaller youth ministry settings.