In episode #21 Barry-John speaks with Daryl Davis who is an African American man from the US who converts KKK and other white supremacist members to his way of thinking.

Daryl talks about the first time that he encountered racism and the profound effect on his life as he embarked on a life long quest to challenge racism and racist groups and most notably the Ku Klux Klan.

Daryl talks about how he has attended KKK rallies where he has encountered hate but also where he has made inroads and challenged peoples racist beliefs with astonishing success.

Daryl has collected over 50 KKK robes from Klan members that have left the racist group. He is directly and/or indirectly involved in over 200 people defecting from the Ku Klux Klan

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