Episode 21 is Justin Cote, former editor of Transworld Surf and current marketing honcho at Superbrand surfboards.

Justin and I shot the shit about all manner of things. From spearfishing to fatherhood to living on an Indian reservation. We talked about balancing soft goods with hard, about the future of the WSL, about the death of print. Growing older and fatter, meeting your childhood idols, far-right beliefs, being held accountable for your speech, getting naked in front of sixteen-year-old girls and his brief tenure as a substitute teacher in Hawaii's public school system.