In this episode I get to talk (and laugh a lot!) with my friend , Carmell , from www.carmellpelly.com, who inspired me a few years ago to lean into my desire to begin a recovery podcast . She has been sober for 15 years and has a comprehensive website that houses her own podcast in Recovery LifeStyles , coaching classes, zoom interviews with many inspiring humans in the recovery realm, and so much more ! Follow her on Instagram at @carmellpelly