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This was amazing to have one of my oldest friends on the podcast and really get into the depths of what he's been through since I've known him which is around about 17 years! 

One of the ones who always checked on me when I was in my lowest times and really helped everyone through our time when we lost one of our best mates in James Ackerman which we share some incredible stories around that time and what the loss of our brother has taught us. 

His journey to the NRL for refereeing has a bit a long and stressful one but as you will see in this you will get to hear about some of the ways he was able to stay resilient and stay on track to his dream of being in the NRL one way or another 

Cannot wait for everyone to see the other side to who most might see as a 'jokester' and the funny guy at the party. 

Having gone through the whole of his childhood about half the size of his football team mates and still put his heart into playing some of the toughest football in QLD in school boy football with some of the now NRL superstars and help our team at the time be one of the most dominant teams in QLD schoolboys rugby league. 

I love doing these kind of episodes for everyone because there is a ridiculous amount of value in this one... ENJOY and all the love!