Episode #23 of "Can I get that software in blue?", a podcast by and for people engaged in technology sales. If you are in the technology presales, solution architecture, sales, support or professional services career paths then this show is for you!

Should engineering report to Product Management or should Product Management function solely through influence over other organzations? Your hosts Chad Tindel and Steve Mayzak are joined by Alex Francoeur, Head of Product at Xata and formerly Director of Product Management at Elastic covering the Kibana Platform, to talk about how to be a successful Product Manager and how your role changes as you move up to managing other Product Managers.

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Links mentioned in the episode:

http://www.cleverpm.com/2015/08/11/understanding-how-to-lead-through-influence/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Stadia/comments/xvma0l/peter_yang_why_google_abandons_so_many_products/

https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2022/12/17/john-carmack-quits-meta-has-traditionally-harsh-words-on-the-way-out/?sh=7a9d8ea6e71c

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-02-07/meta-to-ask-many-managers-to-become-individual-contributors-or-leave?sref=IvuvZyc3