Our second episode with Gabi Fleury. In this one, we talk more specifically about their experiences being non-binary, Black, and queer in conservation, and include only one tangent to talk about cool bugs. (Leafcutter ants have a Neotropical distribution; they don't live in Africa)

Gabi was named in 2021 as one of Forbes Magazine's 30 Under 30 for science: https://www.forbes.com/30-under-30/2021/science/?profile=gabi-fleury

You can see more about their work and other appearances on their website: https://fleurygs3.wixsite.com/gabifleury

We have a transcript and show notes for this episode on our website: https://asabpodcast.com/2021/03/11/episode-23/

Charles is on Twitter @cockroacharles and Tessa @spacermase. The show is on Twitter @ASABpod and our website asabpodcast.com. 

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