On today’s episode Joanna has a conversation with John Karren, who is the owner of Elements Outdoor Therapy Program in Utah. John has dedicated his life to helping families navigate moments of crisis and find comfort in nature. As a decorated competitive endurance swimmer and triathlete, he understands the importance of resilience and perseverance. He attributes his successes in life to his best friend and partner, his wife Melanie. Together they have weathered many of life's storms and triumphs as a united force which has led to many successes.

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Elements Programs

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Call 866-542-2252

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Therapeutic Consulting Association

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