Wes Modes - Artist, Historian, Educator. Captain of the Shantyboat Dotty. I wanted him on as a guest because I saw a sick youtube video all about riding shantyboats and learning about the history of river people in the United States. When he agreed to come on my podcast I was floored!

We talked river people and shanty boats, but spent a bunch of time talking gentrification, race, train hopping, higher education...this was a truly special chat and I hope that you enjoyed it.

Some links to Wes's projects:

https://modes.io

https://peoplesriverhistory.us

https://blackrocktrainstation.com/

https://unavoidabledisaster.com/

And as a bonus, the origin story of Dotty:

https://peoplesriverhistory.us/blog/mad-idea-fueled-by-gin/