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SUMMARY KEYWORDS
Glock switches, Second Amendment, machine gun, V series, full auto, semi auto, NFA, AI technology,
Wi Fi surveillance, gun control, carry permits, New Jersey, gun law, self defense, legalization.
SPEAKERS
Evan Nappen, Teddy Nappen, Speaker 2
Evan Nappen 00:16
I’m Evan Nappen.
Teddy Nappen 00:18
And I’m Teddy Nappen.
Evan Nappen 00:20
And welcome to Gun Lawyer. So, you may have been seeing in the news all the hyper activity about
Glock switches. And, you know, for those of you who aren’t familiar with a Glock switch, it’s a device
that can be easily 3D printed that can be put on the back of a Glock slide. This allows you, by flicking a
switch, to make the semi-automatic Glock pistol into a fully-automatic Glock pistol. Now, just the switch
itself, if you possess just the switch, is considered a machine gun, and you can face 10 years in federal
prison and all of that fun. And not to mention the state law charges as well. But you see, the Second
Amendment oppression gang has taken this issue of Glock switches, you know, things produced by
essentially criminals who are printing these up, procuring them, and the actual criminals getting caught
with Glocks having these Glock switches, and they’ve decided, hey, we can blame Glock for illegal
conversions of their gun.
Evan Nappen 01:54
So, this is their new gambit to go after, essentially, the modern polymer handguns of multiple types,
even by going at their ability to be converted by use of a totally prohibited and illegal device that is used
by criminals and created by criminals and criminally possessed and criminally sold. But somehow that
is Glocks fault, you see. So, this is the twisted world that we live in. And Glock recently, as some of you
may know, discontinued their models to come out with the new V Series. And the new V Series
eliminates the slide the way it was constructed, so that the Glock switch can function in the back of that
slide. Okay? They changed their design, in effect, to either try to subvert the litigation from the Second
Amendment oppression folks, or to try to address this issue in a mechanical way. Whatever some
people think they’re, they’re rolling over, but it’s probably more along the line of a corporate decision
making based on what they’re facing. Whatever the basis or reason is, I don’t know. But the bottom line
is, they’ve changed their models. They have the V system coming out, which cannot use these
traditional Glock switches, and lo and behold, the V’s have just hit the market. They’re out there. And
guess what is now out there for the V Series? That’s right, a new Glock switch. A new Glock switch that
Page – 1 – of 12makes the V Series supposedly to rock and roll. So, you know, technology constantly gets defeated if
you have criminals wanting to do so. And this is just going to be an endless game of what? Re-
modification to a new type of switch to another new type? I mean, it just gets to the point of silliness.
Teddy Nappen 04:14
It’s very funny, too, because the meme going around is life finds a way.
Evan Nappen 04:21
Yeah, life finds a way.
Teddy Nappen 04:23
Life finds a way.
Evan Nappen 04:24
Well, here’s, but I have the solution to the entire Glock switch issue, to the whole issue of, you know,
modifying firearms into full auto and all of that. It’s real simple. We need to just legalize full auto. I
mean, it’s really simple. Then it wouldn’t be an issue. Then if you want to have a Glock that has a Glock
switch, if you want to have a Glock 18 that’s factory switchable, fine. If you want to have one. You see,
here’s the problem. You see, it has been constructed as an argument by the oppressionists going all
the way back to the 1934 Machine Gun Act, the NFA, somehow distinguishing semi- automatic from
fully-automatic. And we even see the pro 2A folks, you know, try to make that distinction. Say, look, you
know, my semi-auto isn’t a machine gun. It’s semi-automatic. And the antis say, well, you know, it’s
easily converted or whatever. Or semis can be just as bad. So, we need to ban semi-automatics.
Evan Nappen 05:39
And then you fall into that trap. It’s a trap because, folks, let’s be honest. What’s the difference between
fully-automatic and semi-automatic? It’s real simple. With semi-automatic, you pull the trigger for each
shot. With fully-automatic, you hold the trigger and the shots all fire. Okay, big effing deal. You’re still
shooting the same bullets. You’re still firing the same gun, and you’re still blasting them out. The only
difference is you don’t have to pull the trigger for each shot. Oh, my God. Okay? It’s really a phony
baloney difference. We shouldn’t tolerate the difference, and machine guns shouldn’t be prohibited. It’s
that simple. It is a crap distinction. Who cares if the rounds come out because you have to pull the
trigger for each shot or hold the trigger for all the shots. Does it really matter? Come on. So, this whole
development of this distinction is now being utilized by the anti-gunners to try to ban handguns, folks.
To ban semi-auto handguns because of the artificial nature of that distinction.
Evan Nappen 07:10
And we, as Pro-Second Amendment rights folks, need to break out of this and just say, legalize full
auto, legalize semi, legalize pump, lever, whatever. There’s no distinguishment upon actions of a
firearm. None. If it shoots, it’s a gun. We have a right to have it. Who cares how much lead it spews by
whether you pull the trigger or hold the trigger. It’s just stupid. I don’t want to play on their playing field. I
don’t want to accept this artificial distinction that we never should have accepted to begin with. And by
the way, the original NFA, the original law from ’34 was a ban on both semi- automatic and fully-
Page – 2 – of 12automatic firearms, and it evolved through the committee hearings so that semi-automatics were okay
and full auto became the prohibited version. But that distinction was stupid then, and it’s stupid now.
Evan Nappen 08:26
Maybe it was a way to somehow pass gun control national where, even at the time, the NRA said,
we’ve solved the gun control problem for the country by having this wonderful National Firearm Act
there. Look, the NRA was naive. And I’m not bashing NRA, okay? Not doing that. I’m just saying back
then, maybe they thought it was the way to play it. But look, we’ve learned since then, okay? It’s not.
And we’ve got to not accept it. We need the NFA gone. We should have the right to machine guns,
suppressors, you name it, any other weapon. That federal law needs to go, and we need to quit the
phony baloney nonsense of trying to distinguish between semi-auto and full-auto.
Teddy Nappen 09:14
I will say, just kind of, I always look to the segment as to look at history. Right after World War Two, you
had every soldier coming home and what was the thing they were holding? Grease guns, Thompson’s.
All of them were coming home saying, like, hell yeah, that machine gun was fantastic.
Evan Nappen 09:34
It saved my ass. Saved my ass. That’s right.
Teddy Nappen 09:37
They had a chance.
Evan Nappen 09:37
They had the opportunity. They could have.
Teddy Nappen 09:41
All these people could have said.
Evan Nappen 09:42
Right!
Teddy Nappen 09:42
Hell, yeah, I want my machine gun. I say, it saved my ass.
Evan Nappen 09:46
Why not?
Teddy Nappen 09:47
True. It saved my troops. What happened?
Evan Nappen 09:50
Right!
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And they blew it. And now,
Evan Nappen 09:52
Well, they were naive. They didn’t realize that opportunity, and it passed. Well, we have a new
opportunity. Now is a new opportunity, especially as we’re attacking NFA with the big, beautiful lawsuit
at least. Going at now that the taxes have been removed from everything except on machine guns. But
if we can win getting rid of the NFA by simply having the tax removed, then the next reconciliation bill,
we can remove the tax on machine guns, and machine guns will be legal, too. So, we have a pathway
here to actually achieving this, and we’ll have to see.
Evan Nappen 10:32
But you know, Teddy, I saw this article that’s very disturbing, because it has some serious, serious
ramifications for technology and guns. This is from Zero Hedge. And the article is entitled,
“Pennsylvania School District Using AI-Enabled Wi-Fi To Search Students For Firearms.” This article is
from November 18, 2025, by Tyler Durden. (https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/pennsylvania-
school-district-using-ai-enabled-wi-fi-search-students-firearms) And what he says in this article is very
scary, okay? Very scary. Not just because of what’s going on with schools, but the actual ramifications
of this. Listen to this. Pennsylvania school district is using artificial intelligence to keep guns off the
campus, and the way they’re doing it, this new technology combines AI and Wi-Fi. And the way it works
is spooky, because AI harnesses the district’s Wi-Fi signal to determine whether people are carrying
weapons as they enter schools. Get a load of that, folks. Did you know that Wi-Fi signals can be
harnessed to determine whether somebody is carrying a weapon or not? They have this technology,
folks, and this school is using it.
Evan Nappen 12:06
The technology was developed by CurvePoint of Pittsburgh, and it grew out of AI research from
Carnegie Mellon University. And according to the company, Wi-AI uses spatial intelligence to find
weapons, such as guns, before they enter a school. The AI system analyzes space and detects where
potential weapons are located by interpreting how Wi- Fi signals reflect off people and objects. Let that
sink in. Do you think they’re going to keep that technology just on schools? And look, it’s a question
whether they should even have it in schools. There’s Fourth Amendment and all kinds of privacy
issues. I get it, but think of this technology now, everywhere, everywhere.
Teddy Nappen 13:05
You know what they just did. They stole a plot from Dark Knight, where you.
Evan Nappen 13:10
Really?
Teddy Nappen 13:10
Use sonar, because when Batman.
Page – 4 – of 12Evan Nappen 13:13
Oh, you’re right. You’re absolutely right.
Teddy Nappen 13:15
It maps the entire city and Lucius, you know, Morgan Freeman, the character he’s like.
Evan Nappen 13:20
Yeah!
Teddy Nappen 13:21
This is wrong. Did they see that movie and like, hell yeah, that’s a great idea.
Evan Nappen 13:27
Ha, ha, ha! I think that’s what they did. I think that’s what they did. You’re absolutely right. Yeah, this is,
this is the Dark Knight apocalyptic scenario here, and we’re dealing now with really a brand new world
of Fourth Amendment concerns. And this is very spooky. In the article here, they quote from a Seattle-
based lawyer named Evan Oshan, he happens to have the same name as me. No relation. It says
technology could devolve into allowing warrantless searches of every person who enters a campus with
no evidence or reasonable suspicion. Then he goes on, and if not checked, technology could be
implemented in all public spaces, creating an even larger surveillance state. Let’s consider that, oh boy.
Evan Nappen 14:28
And he says this technology creates a slippery slope. Today, it’s Wi-Fi signals searching for weapons in
schools. Tomorrow, it’s public transportation, shopping malls, government buildings. Where does it
end? The Constitution provides the guardrails, and we ignore them at our peril. He’s not kidding, folks.
You can see this being abused by states like New Jersey to the nth degree. And even if you’re a legal
licensed carrier, are you now going to be subject to just random stop and search? Stop and frisk? Stop
over that because of Wi-AI? And I thought of something else here that isn’t even mentioned in the
article. If this technology is accessible in this way to just this institution, well, criminals that want to rob a
place can probably hack into Wi-Fi in a given area, and using this technology, determine if anybody is
armed or not before they hit it. It seems to have an amazing potential to set up for crime. It can be used
by criminals. This is scary stuff. It intrudes on our rights. We need to pay attention. They need to start
putting some laws in place to protect us from Wi-Fi AI.
Teddy Nappen 16:06
I will say for the one bit as a counter. The same mad lab that put the Glock switch on the V, someone is
immediately going to start working on guns that don’t get detected. I promise you that. They will.
Evan Nappen 16:19
Well, we can hope for that.
Teddy Nappen 16:21
Yeah, let’s hope for that.
Page – 5 – of 12Evan Nappen 16:22
Yeah. Let’s hope we can have Wi-Fi deflection, Wi-Fi stealth technology, you know. Yeah, yeah, good.
Well, there’s always hope that technology will save us in protecting our rights. That’s true. By the way, I
want to also make a quick point here about a cool article I found in News2A, which is Second
Amendment news. You can check them out at www. news2a.com. They had an article here that says,
“As Carry Permits Surge, New Jersey Begs Court to Deny Sensitive Places Carry Ban Rehearing.”
(https://www.news2a.com/new-jersey/as-carry-permits-surge-new-jersey-begs-court-to-deny-sensitive-
places-carry-ban-rehearing/) So, we’re in the fight, as you know, over the Carry Killer bill, and we’re
trying to get an en banc hearing with a full panel as we’re continuing our fight through the appeals
court, probably eventually heading to the Supreme Court. One of the things I want to point out from the
article, you want to read the article about that whole debate, whole debate over that, about the lawsuit
and its progress go right ahead.
Evan Nappen 17:28
But one tidbit here that I picked up in the article that I just want to share, that I really love. You know,
prior to the Bruen decision in New Jersey, we had approximately 600 civilian carry permits issued,
probably less than 600 for the whole state. The current number of carry permits in New Jersey,
according to this article, which was November 17 of 2025, New Jersey carry permits, now are, issued
carries now, are at 86,656 carries. And that’s according to the state’s own data. Imagine that folks
almost 90,000 and growing. That is how many people wanted to carry. Wanted to be defenders instead
of victims, and were stopped by New Jersey from being able to defend themselves. We’re almost at
90,000. Think of all the people that New Jersey prevented from defending themselves, and how much
blood is on Jersey’s hands of victims who maybe could have saved their lives or saved their loved ones
lives, if they had been allowed to defend themselves. That New Jersey prevented. And now, with a
growth like that, of almost 90,000 and more, the more carry permits out there, the better, because that’s
how we get the Constitutional carry. That is how we get there, and that pattern has been demonstrated
historically over and over again. So, keep getting your permits. More and more permits, more and more
people carrying makes us safer, and it is very encouraging to see that as we continue our fight against
the Second Amendment oppression, folks.
Evan Nappen 19:26
Hey, let me tell you about some very, very big news about our good friends at WeShoot. Listen to this
really exciting news from WeShoot. On December 7, at 10:00 am, WeShoot will be hosting this guy,
whose name is Evan Nappen, and joining Evan Nappen will be Teddy Nappen. We will be there at
WeShoot on Sunday, December 7, right there. We’ll be at Out to Lunch, 264 Cedar Bridge Avenue in
Lakewood. Show up for the event. It’s a great event, and I’ll be there answering all types of questions
about New Jersey gun law. I’d love to meet you and see you. This is also in conjunction with U.S. Law
Shield, and it’s at the Out to Lunch event room. That’s the facility where they’re holding it. At the Out to
Lunch event room at 264 Cedar Bridge Avenue in Lakewood. This is in conjunction with WeShoot and
U.S. Law Shield. So, come there and say hello. I love to always meet my great listeners, and I’ll
probably have some books there as well that I can sign for you. So, stop by, stop by, say hello. It’s
going to be good.
Page – 6 – of 12Evan Nappen 21:00
Also, by the way, WeShoot has some great sales. Their so-called Double-Dipping Sale is back, and
what it allows you to do is get some fantastic discounts. And check out WeShoot. And joining WeShoot.
That membership gets you some great advantages, and they’re offering this week just as some
samples of pretty cool stuff. Bul Armory TAC PRO 4.25″ silver. Now that is a competition tuned stunner
with a crisp two and a half pound trigger, a 20 plus one capacity. But, of course, in New Jersey, you’re
only allowed the 10. With a sleek silver finish that performs as good as it looks. They also have a
Samurai Katana. Now this is not a sword, but named after the sword. It is a uniquely styled, battle
inspired blaster with aggressive lines, custom touches and a serious presence on the range. And don’t
forget, they also have a Smith & Wesson Volunteer XV, which is chambered in 5.56 and ready for
action. It’s a modern sporting rifle with reliability, accuracy and American pride. So, go to WeShoot and
check out all the great guns and gear. You can also get your training. It’s a fantastic range. It’s where
Teddy and I shoot. I’m looking forward to doing this event and seeing all you down there. Go to
weshootusa.com for more information.
Evan Nappen 22:45
And let me also mention our friends at the Association of New Jersey Rifle & Pistol Clubs, which, by the
way, are involved directly in that lawsuit challenging the Carry Killer bill. The very one where the state is
trying to fight us at every turn, including trying to get a full hearing from the appellate court. You want to
be part of that group. You want to be part of the fight. You need to be. The Association of New Jersey
Rifle & Pistol Clubs is your NRA state affiliate. It’s the umbrella organization of gun clubs, and they also
have individual members. And by joining, you become part of the solution. So, go to ANJRPC.org for
more information and being able to join that great group. You’ll be glad you did. You’ll get email alerts of
all the shenanigans taking place in Trenton. And there’s some big stuff that they’re trying to give us a
BOHICA on. You need to be part of the Association, and we can fight it. Really bad stuff is coming
down the pike. Make sure you join anjrpc.org.
Evan Nappen 24:02
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is the book that everybody uses that wants to know about New Jersey gun law, and you can have your
very own copy. It is over 500 pages, 120 topics, all question and answer. Just go to EvanNappen.com
and order your copy today. It makes a great gift. And when you get the book, scan the front cover, and
join my private subscriber base. You can immediately access the archive right there, right online. It has
the 2025 Comprehensive Update, where I did chapter updates, bringing everything current. The book
stays current. You can also grab the special standout chapter on “sensitive places”, so you’ll know
where to carry and where you can’t. Great stuff. EvanNappen.com. Check it out. So, Teddy, what do
you have for us today in Press Checks?
Teddy Nappen 25:04
Well, as you know, Press Checks are always free, and one of those, you know, it’s like Thanksgivings
rolling around the corner. We’re looking at, you know, what’s coming up. So, perusing through
everyone’s favorite anti-gun group, known as Every Town, they decided to put out hey, you know
what’s really good at Thanksgiving to talk about? Politics!
Page – 7 – of 12Evan Nappen 25:33
Yeah, right.
Teddy Nappen 25:34
Their recommendation, to be with your friends and family, talk about politics. Typically, Thanksgiving is
the perfect time to, quote, unquote, “Debunking Gun Myths at the Dinner Table”.
(https://www.everytown.org/debunking-gun-myths-at-the-dinner-table/)
Evan Nappen 25:51
Oh, my God, they are. They’re the bunch of turkeys.
Teddy Nappen 25:55
Oh yeah, yeah, real gobblers. But.
Evan Nappen 26:01
Good one, man. They are gobblers.
Teddy Nappen 26:03
Yeah.
Evan Nappen 26:04
They’re definitely the world class gobblers.
Teddy Nappen 26:08
Yeah. But I just love how they structure this article. I mean, it’s just. Everyone at home. Please just go
and look at it, and you can laugh, because this is what they did. They highlighted one line of some
argument that is made, or their quote “myth”, and then they argue their “fact” to make the argument.
So, I decided, you know what? If anyone, anyone here who’s at a dinner table and decides to bring up
one of their counters to the gun myth, here is my counter to you. So, let’s go through some of them, and
let’s see some of their facts.
Evan Nappen 26:49
What is, let’s hear their B.S. Go ahead, lay it on us.
Teddy Nappen 26:51
Oh, yeah, yeah. So, one myth, criminals will always find a way to get their hands on a gun. Fact – their
fact. Laws like background checks stop gun sales to criminals every day. Since 1994 these laws have
blocked more than 5 million gun sales to people who could not legally buy a gun.
Evan Nappen 27:16
Hey, that’s why criminals don’t have guns anymore. It was such a success that criminals just can’t get
guns. It’s amazing how effective it’s been.
Page – 8 – of 12Teddy Nappen 27:28
Now let me just highlight to you that the, this is from Every Town, by the way, because I love, I love
using their own sources against them.
Evan Nappen 27:37
Yeah!
Teddy Nappen 27:37
They ranked the states with the most amount of gun control. Top nine: California, Massachusetts,
Illinois, New York, Connecticut, New Jersey, Hawaii, Maryland and Washington. Please let that sink in
and tell me that gun control works in these absolute shit pile of states.
Evan Nappen 28:00
Right! That are the worst. The worst oppression of the Second Amendment in all those places, and they
have the records for the crime. It’s exactly the opposite of what they claim. But why should they tell the
truth? They just have an agenda of wanting to disarm us and make us all victims and take away our
guns.
Teddy Nappen 28:24
Yep. And I love this one. They love this myth. “Guns don’t kill people. People kill people.”
Evan Nappen 28:32
Oh, that’s a myth. That’s a myth. I just saw a gun running down the street yesterday. You know,
shooting people. It’s amazing. Yeah. Just guns kill people.
Teddy Nappen 28:41
Yeah. Fact: people kill people, and more efficiently than people without guns. The U.S. gun death rate
is 13 times higher than other higher income countries. Okay, first of all. Logical fallacy alert everybody.
Logical fallacy alert. Mott and Bailey. You’re equating death rates of gun death rates of other countries.
So, first off, pencils give bad grades, apparently. And here in this argument.
Evan Nappen 29:19
And spoons are why The View is fat? Yes, the ladies of The View are fat because of spoons.
Teddy Nappen 29:24
Yeah, the cackling hens, of course. But here’s another statistic, a number, that they like to ignore. This
is from the CDC, 2.5 million lives are saved per year from defensive uses of a firearm.
Evan Nappen 29:40
What does that conveniently ignore, Teddy? I’m sure you know.
Teddy Nappen 29:44
Yeah, just you know, the lives that are saved versus the lives taken.
Page – 9 – of 12Evan Nappen 29:48
Oh, lives saved. Yes, and how many lives are saved with guns?
Teddy Nappen 29:54
Yeah, 2.5 million lives are saved per year with defensive use of a firearm. That is from the CDC
website.
Evan Nappen 30:02
Right! Guns save lives.
Teddy Nappen 30:05
So, we could round it off to 3 million. So, let’s just be fair, 3 million lives, give or take. It’s utter, like they
always say, if it could save one life. Well, I’ve got 3 million.
Evan Nappen 30:16
There you go. There you go.
Teddy Nappen 30:18
It’s just uttered, disgusting.
Evan Nappen 30:21
But that’s why we do the oppo research, and this is what we’re fighting — the propaganda of the gun
rights oppression movement. And we’ve got to keep up the fight. And I tell you what, at Thanksgiving, if
you want to talk guns, that’s fine. Talk guns, talk pro-gun. And if you have somebody that is challenging
you on it, make sure you know the facts and counter them back. This is, you know, most of the time you
just want to enjoy holidays with your family. But unfortunately, every family has some that are
misguided. That don’t understand the importance of our rights and don’t understand the war that is
taking place upon our Constitution. So, if you’re going to talk politics, talk freedom, talk rights, and
defend it vigorously.
Teddy Nappen 31:24
And I will say this one, this one absolutely angers me. I always see them try, and I love this. The only
way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. That’s their “myth”, and if more guns
everywhere made safe, America would be the safest country on Earth. Instead, we have the gun
homicide rate 26 time higher than higher income countries. What are higher income countries?
Whatever. So, it’s something that is very, first of all, reverse Nirvana fallacy. Logical fallacy alert. If we
got rid of all the guns, there would be no death, no murder. All right. The number, except the number
one killer, the number one killer of children is accidents. And, quite frankly, the number one killer of
mass shooters. You know what kills them? Guns!
Evan Nappen 32:21
Right. That’s what stops them.
Page – 10 – of 12Teddy Nappen 32:23
Yeah, even if they shoot.
Evan Nappen 32:25
The reason a good guy with a gun is far from being a myth and is a fact. Is that any logical, reasonable
person can individually appreciate that very fact. Because I’ll tell you right now, I’d rather have a gun
and not need it than need a gun and not have it. And that need a gun aspect is what we’re talking
about. Because when there’s a bad guy with a gun, you need a gun to stop that bad guy. I don’t care
about statistics. I really don’t. I care about me being able to defend myself and my loved ones, and if
somebody else is threatening me, it is a firearm that I need to have the most effective means of self-
defense. So, when you distill it down to our own personal interests, which is what rights are all about,
it’s about our individual rights, my individual right, your individual right to defend ourselves and not be
victims of criminals. And I’ll tell you right now. A good guy with a gun beats a bad guy with a gun every
time, and what’s no good at all is a bad guy with a gun and a good guy who has no means of self-
defense. You want to really be in a lousy spot. That’s the lousy spot to be in. The bad guy with a gun
and you have no means of defense, so you don’t even have to step into statistics. Don’t even need it.
Teddy Nappen 33:56
Yeah, and that lousy spot, look at Britain, where the massive raping gangs all across. It took a little girl
to defend herself with a hatchet and a knife. You look to Australia, with all the rampant crime of assault,
theft, rape going all these quote, unquote, high income countries, you know what we have that’s
different. We’re allowed to actually defend ourselves and not be prosecuted where you have no right to
defend yourself.
Evan Nappen 34:23
Because part of the Second Amendment is also a Constitutional right to self-defense. And you know,
sometimes you hear the antis even point to Japan. They say, look, the raid in Japan where they banned
guns is so much less than the U.S. Well, Japan, first of all, is a very homogeneous population, right, of
Japanese. But here’s the real kicker that they don’t tell you. The percentage of violent crime amongst
Japanese-Americans who have access to firearms is even less than that of the Japanese country,
Japanese. So, you know, Japanese-Americans, it’s even lower. They have access to guns. So, it’s not
really about the guns. It’s about the culture. And if you step back and say, hey, where are these really
bad states, where is the really bad crime problems? And then you see it’s urban more than anything,
and it’s urban culture more than anything. But once you start talking about having to change culture, oh,
the Left doesn’t want to hear about that. It doesn’t want to hear. They’d rather blame the inanimate
object and go after our ability to defend ourselves.
Teddy Nappen 35:40
I also like how they always try to compare Japan. I’m like, Oh, really. And how do you feel about their
immigration policies? Because I agree with those.
Evan Nappen 35:50
That’s a whole other thing.
Page – 11 – of 12Teddy Nappen 35:52
They always like to pick and choose those things, don’t they?
Evan Nappen 35:55
Yeah, that’s pretty funny. They sure do. Well, Teddy, I want to tell you about this week’s GOGU, which
is the Gun Owner Fuck Up. And we always love talking about the GOFU because these are expensive
lessons learned by actual individuals with actual cases. We don’t want any of our listeners to be
GOFUs and that’s why we talk about them. So, this is your chance to learn for free, expensive lessons.
The GOFU this week is about trying to get gun information from the internet. Listen, folks, gun law
information. Gun law information. You have to be extremely careful with AI and Google and all this. I
get clients that have looked at the Internet for their information, and it couldn’t be further from the actual
law. It is very dangerous to rely on anything you get out of the internet. It is full of falsehoods, full of
blatant fantasies, full of misinformation that gets put forward as actual law. And I have clients that have
unfortunately gotten themselves into trouble because they followed what they just read from doing a
simple search online. And that’s not going to get you the answers you need. When you need to know a
gun law answer, you need to go to a gun law attorney. An attorney that knows and understands the gun
laws. Go to my book, go to actual, proven authoritative sources. When you rely on the internet, you are
at risk. And it never ceases to amaze me as to the absolute B.S. that gets put out there. And what’s
really is sad is when a gun owner relies on it to their detriment. Don’t be that GOFU, folks.
Evan Nappen 38:09
This is Evan Nappen and Teddy Nappen reminding you that gun laws don’t protect honest citizens from
criminals. They protect criminals from honest citizens.
Speaker 2 38:20
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SUMMARY KEYWORDS
Glock switches, Second Amendment, machine gun, V series, full auto, semi auto, NFA, AI technology,
Wi Fi surveillance, gun control, carry permits, New Jersey, gun law, self defense, legalization.
SPEAKERS
Evan Nappen, Teddy Nappen, Speaker 2
Evan Nappen 00:16
I’m Evan Nappen.
Teddy Nappen 00:18
And I’m Teddy Nappen.
Evan Nappen 00:20
And welcome to Gun Lawyer. So, you may have been seeing in the news all the hyper activity about
Glock switches. And, you know, for those of you who aren’t familiar with a Glock switch, it’s a device
that can be easily 3D printed that can be put on the back of a Glock slide. This allows you, by flicking a
switch, to make the semi-automatic Glock pistol into a fully-automatic Glock pistol. Now, just the switch
itself, if you possess just the switch, is considered a machine gun, and you can face 10 years in federal
prison and all of that fun. And not to mention the state law charges as well. But you see, the Second
Amendment oppression gang has taken this issue of Glock switches, you know, things produced by
essentially criminals who are printing these up, procuring them, and the actual criminals getting caught
with Glocks having these Glock switches, and they’ve decided, hey, we can blame Glock for illegal
conversions of their gun.
Evan Nappen 01:54
So, this is their new gambit to go after, essentially, the modern polymer handguns of multiple types,
even by going at their ability to be converted by use of a totally prohibited and illegal device that is used
by criminals and created by criminals and criminally possessed and criminally sold. But somehow that
is Glocks fault, you see. So, this is the twisted world that we live in. And Glock recently, as some of you
may know, discontinued their models to come out with the new V Series. And the new V Series
eliminates the slide the way it was constructed, so that the Glock switch can function in the back of that
slide. Okay? They changed their design, in effect, to either try to subvert the litigation from the Second
Amendment oppression folks, or to try to address this issue in a mechanical way. Whatever some
people think they’re, they’re rolling over, but it’s probably more along the line of a corporate decision
making based on what they’re facing. Whatever the basis or reason is, I don’t know. But the bottom line
is, they’ve changed their models. They have the V system coming out, which cannot use these
traditional Glock switches, and lo and behold, the V’s have just hit the market. They’re out there. And
guess what is now out there for the V Series? That’s right, a new Glock switch. A new Glock switch that
Page – 1 – of 12makes the V Series supposedly to rock and roll. So, you know, technology constantly gets defeated if
you have criminals wanting to do so. And this is just going to be an endless game of what? Re-
modification to a new type of switch to another new type? I mean, it just gets to the point of silliness.
Teddy Nappen 04:14
It’s very funny, too, because the meme going around is life finds a way.
Evan Nappen 04:21
Yeah, life finds a way.
Teddy Nappen 04:23
Life finds a way.
Evan Nappen 04:24
Well, here’s, but I have the solution to the entire Glock switch issue, to the whole issue of, you know,
modifying firearms into full auto and all of that. It’s real simple. We need to just legalize full auto. I
mean, it’s really simple. Then it wouldn’t be an issue. Then if you want to have a Glock that has a Glock
switch, if you want to have a Glock 18 that’s factory switchable, fine. If you want to have one. You see,
here’s the problem. You see, it has been constructed as an argument by the oppressionists going all
the way back to the 1934 Machine Gun Act, the NFA, somehow distinguishing semi- automatic from
fully-automatic. And we even see the pro 2A folks, you know, try to make that distinction. Say, look, you
know, my semi-auto isn’t a machine gun. It’s semi-automatic. And the antis say, well, you know, it’s
easily converted or whatever. Or semis can be just as bad. So, we need to ban semi-automatics.
Evan Nappen 05:39
And then you fall into that trap. It’s a trap because, folks, let’s be honest. What’s the difference between
fully-automatic and semi-automatic? It’s real simple. With semi-automatic, you pull the trigger for each
shot. With fully-automatic, you hold the trigger and the shots all fire. Okay, big effing deal. You’re still
shooting the same bullets. You’re still firing the same gun, and you’re still blasting them out. The only
difference is you don’t have to pull the trigger for each shot. Oh, my God. Okay? It’s really a phony
baloney difference. We shouldn’t tolerate the difference, and machine guns shouldn’t be prohibited. It’s
that simple. It is a crap distinction. Who cares if the rounds come out because you have to pull the
trigger for each shot or hold the trigger for all the shots. Does it really matter? Come on. So, this whole
development of this distinction is now being utilized by the anti-gunners to try to ban handguns, folks.
To ban semi-auto handguns because of the artificial nature of that distinction.
Evan Nappen 07:10
And we, as Pro-Second Amendment rights folks, need to break out of this and just say, legalize full
auto, legalize semi, legalize pump, lever, whatever. There’s no distinguishment upon actions of a
firearm. None. If it shoots, it’s a gun. We have a right to have it. Who cares how much lead it spews by
whether you pull the trigger or hold the trigger. It’s just stupid. I don’t want to play on their playing field. I
don’t want to accept this artificial distinction that we never should have accepted to begin with. And by
the way, the original NFA, the original law from ’34 was a ban on both semi- automatic and fully-
Page – 2 – of 12automatic firearms, and it evolved through the committee hearings so that semi-automatics were okay
and full auto became the prohibited version. But that distinction was stupid then, and it’s stupid now.
Evan Nappen 08:26
Maybe it was a way to somehow pass gun control national where, even at the time, the NRA said,
we’ve solved the gun control problem for the country by having this wonderful National Firearm Act
there. Look, the NRA was naive. And I’m not bashing NRA, okay? Not doing that. I’m just saying back
then, maybe they thought it was the way to play it. But look, we’ve learned since then, okay? It’s not.
And we’ve got to not accept it. We need the NFA gone. We should have the right to machine guns,
suppressors, you name it, any other weapon. That federal law needs to go, and we need to quit the
phony baloney nonsense of trying to distinguish between semi-auto and full-auto.
Teddy Nappen 09:14
I will say, just kind of, I always look to the segment as to look at history. Right after World War Two, you
had every soldier coming home and what was the thing they were holding? Grease guns, Thompson’s.
All of them were coming home saying, like, hell yeah, that machine gun was fantastic.
Evan Nappen 09:34
It saved my ass. Saved my ass. That’s right.
Teddy Nappen 09:37
They had a chance.
Evan Nappen 09:37
They had the opportunity. They could have.
Teddy Nappen 09:41
All these people could have said.
Evan Nappen 09:42
Right!
Teddy Nappen 09:42
Hell, yeah, I want my machine gun. I say, it saved my ass.
Evan Nappen 09:46
Why not?
Teddy Nappen 09:47
True. It saved my troops. What happened?
Evan Nappen 09:50
Right!
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And they blew it. And now,
Evan Nappen 09:52
Well, they were naive. They didn’t realize that opportunity, and it passed. Well, we have a new
opportunity. Now is a new opportunity, especially as we’re attacking NFA with the big, beautiful lawsuit
at least. Going at now that the taxes have been removed from everything except on machine guns. But
if we can win getting rid of the NFA by simply having the tax removed, then the next reconciliation bill,
we can remove the tax on machine guns, and machine guns will be legal, too. So, we have a pathway
here to actually achieving this, and we’ll have to see.
Evan Nappen 10:32
But you know, Teddy, I saw this article that’s very disturbing, because it has some serious, serious
ramifications for technology and guns. This is from Zero Hedge. And the article is entitled,
“Pennsylvania School District Using AI-Enabled Wi-Fi To Search Students For Firearms.” This article is
from November 18, 2025, by Tyler Durden. (https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/pennsylvania-
school-district-using-ai-enabled-wi-fi-search-students-firearms) And what he says in this article is very
scary, okay? Very scary. Not just because of what’s going on with schools, but the actual ramifications
of this. Listen to this. Pennsylvania school district is using artificial intelligence to keep guns off the
campus, and the way they’re doing it, this new technology combines AI and Wi-Fi. And the way it works
is spooky, because AI harnesses the district’s Wi-Fi signal to determine whether people are carrying
weapons as they enter schools. Get a load of that, folks. Did you know that Wi-Fi signals can be
harnessed to determine whether somebody is carrying a weapon or not? They have this technology,
folks, and this school is using it.
Evan Nappen 12:06
The technology was developed by CurvePoint of Pittsburgh, and it grew out of AI research from
Carnegie Mellon University. And according to the company, Wi-AI uses spatial intelligence to find
weapons, such as guns, before they enter a school. The AI system analyzes space and detects where
potential weapons are located by interpreting how Wi- Fi signals reflect off people and objects. Let that
sink in. Do you think they’re going to keep that technology just on schools? And look, it’s a question
whether they should even have it in schools. There’s Fourth Amendment and all kinds of privacy
issues. I get it, but think of this technology now, everywhere, everywhere.
Teddy Nappen 13:05
You know what they just did. They stole a plot from Dark Knight, where you.
Evan Nappen 13:10
Really?
Teddy Nappen 13:10
Use sonar, because when Batman.
Page – 4 – of 12Evan Nappen 13:13
Oh, you’re right. You’re absolutely right.
Teddy Nappen 13:15
It maps the entire city and Lucius, you know, Morgan Freeman, the character he’s like.
Evan Nappen 13:20
Yeah!
Teddy Nappen 13:21
This is wrong. Did they see that movie and like, hell yeah, that’s a great idea.
Evan Nappen 13:27
Ha, ha, ha! I think that’s what they did. I think that’s what they did. You’re absolutely right. Yeah, this is,
this is the Dark Knight apocalyptic scenario here, and we’re dealing now with really a brand new world
of Fourth Amendment concerns. And this is very spooky. In the article here, they quote from a Seattle-
based lawyer named Evan Oshan, he happens to have the same name as me. No relation. It says
technology could devolve into allowing warrantless searches of every person who enters a campus with
no evidence or reasonable suspicion. Then he goes on, and if not checked, technology could be
implemented in all public spaces, creating an even larger surveillance state. Let’s consider that, oh boy.
Evan Nappen 14:28
And he says this technology creates a slippery slope. Today, it’s Wi-Fi signals searching for weapons in
schools. Tomorrow, it’s public transportation, shopping malls, government buildings. Where does it
end? The Constitution provides the guardrails, and we ignore them at our peril. He’s not kidding, folks.
You can see this being abused by states like New Jersey to the nth degree. And even if you’re a legal
licensed carrier, are you now going to be subject to just random stop and search? Stop and frisk? Stop
over that because of Wi-AI? And I thought of something else here that isn’t even mentioned in the
article. If this technology is accessible in this way to just this institution, well, criminals that want to rob a
place can probably hack into Wi-Fi in a given area, and using this technology, determine if anybody is
armed or not before they hit it. It seems to have an amazing potential to set up for crime. It can be used
by criminals. This is scary stuff. It intrudes on our rights. We need to pay attention. They need to start
putting some laws in place to protect us from Wi-Fi AI.
Teddy Nappen 16:06
I will say for the one bit as a counter. The same mad lab that put the Glock switch on the V, someone is
immediately going to start working on guns that don’t get detected. I promise you that. They will.
Evan Nappen 16:19
Well, we can hope for that.
Teddy Nappen 16:21
Yeah, let’s hope for that.
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Yeah. Let’s hope we can have Wi-Fi deflection, Wi-Fi stealth technology, you know. Yeah, yeah, good.
Well, there’s always hope that technology will save us in protecting our rights. That’s true. By the way, I
want to also make a quick point here about a cool article I found in News2A, which is Second
Amendment news. You can check them out at www. news2a.com. They had an article here that says,
“As Carry Permits Surge, New Jersey Begs Court to Deny Sensitive Places Carry Ban Rehearing.”
(https://www.news2a.com/new-jersey/as-carry-permits-surge-new-jersey-begs-court-to-deny-sensitive-
places-carry-ban-rehearing/) So, we’re in the fight, as you know, over the Carry Killer bill, and we’re
trying to get an en banc hearing with a full panel as we’re continuing our fight through the appeals
court, probably eventually heading to the Supreme Court. One of the things I want to point out from the
article, you want to read the article about that whole debate, whole debate over that, about the lawsuit
and its progress go right ahead.
Evan Nappen 17:28
But one tidbit here that I picked up in the article that I just want to share, that I really love. You know,
prior to the Bruen decision in New Jersey, we had approximately 600 civilian carry permits issued,
probably less than 600 for the whole state. The current number of carry permits in New Jersey,
according to this article, which was November 17 of 2025, New Jersey carry permits, now are, issued
carries now, are at 86,656 carries. And that’s according to the state’s own data. Imagine that folks
almost 90,000 and growing. That is how many people wanted to carry. Wanted to be defenders instead
of victims, and were stopped by New Jersey from being able to defend themselves. We’re almost at
90,000. Think of all the people that New Jersey prevented from defending themselves, and how much
blood is on Jersey’s hands of victims who maybe could have saved their lives or saved their loved ones
lives, if they had been allowed to defend themselves. That New Jersey prevented. And now, with a
growth like that, of almost 90,000 and more, the more carry permits out there, the better, because that’s
how we get the Constitutional carry. That is how we get there, and that pattern has been demonstrated
historically over and over again. So, keep getting your permits. More and more permits, more and more
people carrying makes us safer, and it is very encouraging to see that as we continue our fight against
the Second Amendment oppression, folks.
Evan Nappen 19:26
Hey, let me tell you about some very, very big news about our good friends at WeShoot. Listen to this
really exciting news from WeShoot. On December 7, at 10:00 am, WeShoot will be hosting this guy,
whose name is Evan Nappen, and joining Evan Nappen will be Teddy Nappen. We will be there at
WeShoot on Sunday, December 7, right there. We’ll be at Out to Lunch, 264 Cedar Bridge Avenue in
Lakewood. Show up for the event. It’s a great event, and I’ll be there answering all types of questions
about New Jersey gun law. I’d love to meet you and see you. This is also in conjunction with U.S. Law
Shield, and it’s at the Out to Lunch event room. That’s the facility where they’re holding it. At the Out to
Lunch event room at 264 Cedar Bridge Avenue in Lakewood. This is in conjunction with WeShoot and
U.S. Law Shield. So, come there and say hello. I love to always meet my great listeners, and I’ll
probably have some books there as well that I can sign for you. So, stop by, stop by, say hello. It’s
going to be good.
Page – 6 – of 12Evan Nappen 21:00
Also, by the way, WeShoot has some great sales. Their so-called Double-Dipping Sale is back, and
what it allows you to do is get some fantastic discounts. And check out WeShoot. And joining WeShoot.
That membership gets you some great advantages, and they’re offering this week just as some
samples of pretty cool stuff. Bul Armory TAC PRO 4.25″ silver. Now that is a competition tuned stunner
with a crisp two and a half pound trigger, a 20 plus one capacity. But, of course, in New Jersey, you’re
only allowed the 10. With a sleek silver finish that performs as good as it looks. They also have a
Samurai Katana. Now this is not a sword, but named after the sword. It is a uniquely styled, battle
inspired blaster with aggressive lines, custom touches and a serious presence on the range. And don’t
forget, they also have a Smith & Wesson Volunteer XV, which is chambered in 5.56 and ready for
action. It’s a modern sporting rifle with reliability, accuracy and American pride. So, go to WeShoot and
check out all the great guns and gear. You can also get your training. It’s a fantastic range. It’s where
Teddy and I shoot. I’m looking forward to doing this event and seeing all you down there. Go to
weshootusa.com for more information.
Evan Nappen 22:45
And let me also mention our friends at the Association of New Jersey Rifle & Pistol Clubs, which, by the
way, are involved directly in that lawsuit challenging the Carry Killer bill. The very one where the state is
trying to fight us at every turn, including trying to get a full hearing from the appellate court. You want to
be part of that group. You want to be part of the fight. You need to be. The Association of New Jersey
Rifle & Pistol Clubs is your NRA state affiliate. It’s the umbrella organization of gun clubs, and they also
have individual members. And by joining, you become part of the solution. So, go to ANJRPC.org for
more information and being able to join that great group. You’ll be glad you did. You’ll get email alerts of
all the shenanigans taking place in Trenton. And there’s some big stuff that they’re trying to give us a
BOHICA on. You need to be part of the Association, and we can fight it. Really bad stuff is coming
down the pike. Make sure you join anjrpc.org.
Evan Nappen 24:02
Let me also shamelessly promote my book, New Jersey Gun Law, the Bible of New Jersey gun law. It
is the book that everybody uses that wants to know about New Jersey gun law, and you can have your
very own copy. It is over 500 pages, 120 topics, all question and answer. Just go to EvanNappen.com
and order your copy today. It makes a great gift. And when you get the book, scan the front cover, and
join my private subscriber base. You can immediately access the archive right there, right online. It has
the 2025 Comprehensive Update, where I did chapter updates, bringing everything current. The book
stays current. You can also grab the special standout chapter on “sensitive places”, so you’ll know
where to carry and where you can’t. Great stuff. EvanNappen.com. Check it out. So, Teddy, what do
you have for us today in Press Checks?
Teddy Nappen 25:04
Well, as you know, Press Checks are always free, and one of those, you know, it’s like Thanksgivings
rolling around the corner. We’re looking at, you know, what’s coming up. So, perusing through
everyone’s favorite anti-gun group, known as Every Town, they decided to put out hey, you know
what’s really good at Thanksgiving to talk about? Politics!
Page – 7 – of 12Evan Nappen 25:33
Yeah, right.
Teddy Nappen 25:34
Their recommendation, to be with your friends and family, talk about politics. Typically, Thanksgiving is
the perfect time to, quote, unquote, “Debunking Gun Myths at the Dinner Table”.
(https://www.everytown.org/debunking-gun-myths-at-the-dinner-table/)
Evan Nappen 25:51
Oh, my God, they are. They’re the bunch of turkeys.
Teddy Nappen 25:55
Oh yeah, yeah, real gobblers. But.
Evan Nappen 26:01
Good one, man. They are gobblers.
Teddy Nappen 26:03
Yeah.
Evan Nappen 26:04
They’re definitely the world class gobblers.
Teddy Nappen 26:08
Yeah. But I just love how they structure this article. I mean, it’s just. Everyone at home. Please just go
and look at it, and you can laugh, because this is what they did. They highlighted one line of some
argument that is made, or their quote “myth”, and then they argue their “fact” to make the argument.
So, I decided, you know what? If anyone, anyone here who’s at a dinner table and decides to bring up
one of their counters to the gun myth, here is my counter to you. So, let’s go through some of them, and
let’s see some of their facts.
Evan Nappen 26:49
What is, let’s hear their B.S. Go ahead, lay it on us.
Teddy Nappen 26:51
Oh, yeah, yeah. So, one myth, criminals will always find a way to get their hands on a gun. Fact – their
fact. Laws like background checks stop gun sales to criminals every day. Since 1994 these laws have
blocked more than 5 million gun sales to people who could not legally buy a gun.
Evan Nappen 27:16
Hey, that’s why criminals don’t have guns anymore. It was such a success that criminals just can’t get
guns. It’s amazing how effective it’s been.
Page – 8 – of 12Teddy Nappen 27:28
Now let me just highlight to you that the, this is from Every Town, by the way, because I love, I love
using their own sources against them.
Evan Nappen 27:37
Yeah!
Teddy Nappen 27:37
They ranked the states with the most amount of gun control. Top nine: California, Massachusetts,
Illinois, New York, Connecticut, New Jersey, Hawaii, Maryland and Washington. Please let that sink in
and tell me that gun control works in these absolute shit pile of states.
Evan Nappen 28:00
Right! That are the worst. The worst oppression of the Second Amendment in all those places, and they
have the records for the crime. It’s exactly the opposite of what they claim. But why should they tell the
truth? They just have an agenda of wanting to disarm us and make us all victims and take away our
guns.
Teddy Nappen 28:24
Yep. And I love this one. They love this myth. “Guns don’t kill people. People kill people.”
Evan Nappen 28:32
Oh, that’s a myth. That’s a myth. I just saw a gun running down the street yesterday. You know,
shooting people. It’s amazing. Yeah. Just guns kill people.
Teddy Nappen 28:41
Yeah. Fact: people kill people, and more efficiently than people without guns. The U.S. gun death rate
is 13 times higher than other higher income countries. Okay, first of all. Logical fallacy alert everybody.
Logical fallacy alert. Mott and Bailey. You’re equating death rates of gun death rates of other countries.
So, first off, pencils give bad grades, apparently. And here in this argument.
Evan Nappen 29:19
And spoons are why The View is fat? Yes, the ladies of The View are fat because of spoons.
Teddy Nappen 29:24
Yeah, the cackling hens, of course. But here’s another statistic, a number, that they like to ignore. This
is from the CDC, 2.5 million lives are saved per year from defensive uses of a firearm.
Evan Nappen 29:40
What does that conveniently ignore, Teddy? I’m sure you know.
Teddy Nappen 29:44
Yeah, just you know, the lives that are saved versus the lives taken.
Page – 9 – of 12Evan Nappen 29:48
Oh, lives saved. Yes, and how many lives are saved with guns?
Teddy Nappen 29:54
Yeah, 2.5 million lives are saved per year with defensive use of a firearm. That is from the CDC
website.
Evan Nappen 30:02
Right! Guns save lives.
Teddy Nappen 30:05
So, we could round it off to 3 million. So, let’s just be fair, 3 million lives, give or take. It’s utter, like they
always say, if it could save one life. Well, I’ve got 3 million.
Evan Nappen 30:16
There you go. There you go.
Teddy Nappen 30:18
It’s just uttered, disgusting.
Evan Nappen 30:21
But that’s why we do the oppo research, and this is what we’re fighting — the propaganda of the gun
rights oppression movement. And we’ve got to keep up the fight. And I tell you what, at Thanksgiving, if
you want to talk guns, that’s fine. Talk guns, talk pro-gun. And if you have somebody that is challenging
you on it, make sure you know the facts and counter them back. This is, you know, most of the time you
just want to enjoy holidays with your family. But unfortunately, every family has some that are
misguided. That don’t understand the importance of our rights and don’t understand the war that is
taking place upon our Constitution. So, if you’re going to talk politics, talk freedom, talk rights, and
defend it vigorously.
Teddy Nappen 31:24
And I will say this one, this one absolutely angers me. I always see them try, and I love this. The only
way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. That’s their “myth”, and if more guns
everywhere made safe, America would be the safest country on Earth. Instead, we have the gun
homicide rate 26 time higher than higher income countries. What are higher income countries?
Whatever. So, it’s something that is very, first of all, reverse Nirvana fallacy. Logical fallacy alert. If we
got rid of all the guns, there would be no death, no murder. All right. The number, except the number
one killer, the number one killer of children is accidents. And, quite frankly, the number one killer of
mass shooters. You know what kills them? Guns!
Evan Nappen 32:21
Right. That’s what stops them.
Page – 10 – of 12Teddy Nappen 32:23
Yeah, even if they shoot.
Evan Nappen 32:25
The reason a good guy with a gun is far from being a myth and is a fact. Is that any logical, reasonable
person can individually appreciate that very fact. Because I’ll tell you right now, I’d rather have a gun
and not need it than need a gun and not have it. And that need a gun aspect is what we’re talking
about. Because when there’s a bad guy with a gun, you need a gun to stop that bad guy. I don’t care
about statistics. I really don’t. I care about me being able to defend myself and my loved ones, and if
somebody else is threatening me, it is a firearm that I need to have the most effective means of self-
defense. So, when you distill it down to our own personal interests, which is what rights are all about,
it’s about our individual rights, my individual right, your individual right to defend ourselves and not be
victims of criminals. And I’ll tell you right now. A good guy with a gun beats a bad guy with a gun every
time, and what’s no good at all is a bad guy with a gun and a good guy who has no means of self-
defense. You want to really be in a lousy spot. That’s the lousy spot to be in. The bad guy with a gun
and you have no means of defense, so you don’t even have to step into statistics. Don’t even need it.
Teddy Nappen 33:56
Yeah, and that lousy spot, look at Britain, where the massive raping gangs all across. It took a little girl
to defend herself with a hatchet and a knife. You look to Australia, with all the rampant crime of assault,
theft, rape going all these quote, unquote, high income countries, you know what we have that’s
different. We’re allowed to actually defend ourselves and not be prosecuted where you have no right to
defend yourself.
Evan Nappen 34:23
Because part of the Second Amendment is also a Constitutional right to self-defense. And you know,
sometimes you hear the antis even point to Japan. They say, look, the raid in Japan where they banned
guns is so much less than the U.S. Well, Japan, first of all, is a very homogeneous population, right, of
Japanese. But here’s the real kicker that they don’t tell you. The percentage of violent crime amongst
Japanese-Americans who have access to firearms is even less than that of the Japanese country,
Japanese. So, you know, Japanese-Americans, it’s even lower. They have access to guns. So, it’s not
really about the guns. It’s about the culture. And if you step back and say, hey, where are these really
bad states, where is the really bad crime problems? And then you see it’s urban more than anything,
and it’s urban culture more than anything. But once you start talking about having to change culture, oh,
the Left doesn’t want to hear about that. It doesn’t want to hear. They’d rather blame the inanimate
object and go after our ability to defend ourselves.
Teddy Nappen 35:40
I also like how they always try to compare Japan. I’m like, Oh, really. And how do you feel about their
immigration policies? Because I agree with those.
Evan Nappen 35:50
That’s a whole other thing.
Page – 11 – of 12Teddy Nappen 35:52
They always like to pick and choose those things, don’t they?
Evan Nappen 35:55
Yeah, that’s pretty funny. They sure do. Well, Teddy, I want to tell you about this week’s GOGU, which
is the Gun Owner Fuck Up. And we always love talking about the GOFU because these are expensive
lessons learned by actual individuals with actual cases. We don’t want any of our listeners to be
GOFUs and that’s why we talk about them. So, this is your chance to learn for free, expensive lessons.
The GOFU this week is about trying to get gun information from the internet. Listen, folks, gun law
information. Gun law information. You have to be extremely careful with AI and Google and all this. I
get clients that have looked at the Internet for their information, and it couldn’t be further from the actual
law. It is very dangerous to rely on anything you get out of the internet. It is full of falsehoods, full of
blatant fantasies, full of misinformation that gets put forward as actual law. And I have clients that have
unfortunately gotten themselves into trouble because they followed what they just read from doing a
simple search online. And that’s not going to get you the answers you need. When you need to know a
gun law answer, you need to go to a gun law attorney. An attorney that knows and understands the gun
laws. Go to my book, go to actual, proven authoritative sources. When you rely on the internet, you are
at risk. And it never ceases to amaze me as to the absolute B.S. that gets put out there. And what’s
really is sad is when a gun owner relies on it to their detriment. Don’t be that GOFU, folks.
Evan Nappen 38:09
This is Evan Nappen and Teddy Nappen reminding you that gun laws don’t protect honest citizens from
criminals. They protect criminals from honest citizens.
Speaker 2 38:20
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Known as “America’s Gun Lawyer,” Evan Nappen is above all a tireless defender of justice. Author of eight bestselling books and countless articles on firearms, knives, and weapons history and the law, a certified Firearms Instructor, and avid weapons collector and historian with a vast collection that spans almost five decades — it’s no wonder he’s become the trusted, go-to expert for local, industry and national media outlets.
Regularly called on by radio, television and online news media for his commentary and expertise on breaking news Evan has appeared countless shows including Fox News – Judge Jeanine, CNN – Lou Dobbs, Court TV, Real Talk on WOR, It’s Your Call with Lyn Doyle, Tom Gresham’s Gun Talk, and Cam & Company/NRA News.
As a creative arts consultant, he also lends his weapons law and historical expertise to an elite, discerning cadre of movie and television producers and directors, and novelists.
He also provides expert testimony and consultations for defense attorneys across America.
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