In this raw and reflective episode, I reconnect with Joei Jordan, calling in from behind the walls, for a powerful follow-up to his first appearance on the podcast. The last time we spoke, Joei was serving life without parole (LWOP)—sentenced at just 20 years old. Today, his future looks dramatically different.

On April 1, 2025, the Michigan Supreme Court issued a groundbreaking decision in People v. Poole, extending resentencing protections retroactively to those like Joei. With additional rulings in People v. Taylor and People v. Czarnecki, the Court affirmed that 19- and 20-year-olds deserve the same individualized sentencing considerations as 18-year-olds under the Michigan Constitution.

Joei walks us through:

• The recent Supreme Court decision that changed everything
• What it means for his case—and hundreds of others like him
• The resentencing process and what comes next
• The complex emotions of hope, guilt, and readiness
• His belief that he still owes a debt to society
• And the hard question I pose:
      “Are you ready to come out and be successful, or just tired of being in prison?”

We also reflect on what "rehabilitation" really means, and what it takes to transform a life behind bars into one of purpose beyond them.

This episode is a must-listen for anyone interested in justice, redemption, and the real human stories behind systemic change.

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