What does an experienced "conversion surgeon" have to say about the future of data driven marketing? This week we're welcoming Kirk Deis, Senior Growth Marketing Manager at Skydio and the brain behind heydigitaldoc.com tools, on the podcast.

Learn about the usefulness of being a student of your own craft as a marketer and get all his top tips about how to make it in the industry. 

Check out Kirk's marketing freebies on heydigitaldoc.com