Why Not Us

Episode 29 - Heart Work & Headspace: Father-Son Conversations on Growth


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This episode wasn’t planned; it was poured out.

What started as a cultural deep dive turned into a vulnerable, in-the-moment conversation about father-son dynamics, emotional weight, and what it means to walk through a season where your heart is under construction.

Dillon opens up about the reality of carrying responsibility while being reshaped internally. Pastor Jamie steps in not as a host, but as a spiritual father, helping guide the conversation from performance to posture.

This isn’t a motivational episode. It’s an honest one.

In this episode:

  • Why father wounds and spiritual fathering shape how we lead and receive
  • How to keep your heart soft when life tries to harden it
  • What it means to lead from sonship, not survival
  • The real cost of correction, accountability, and trust
  • Navigating seasons where your heart feels like it’s being pruned, not praised

Quote to remember:
"God doesn’t just fix your fruit. He cuts at the root."

If you’re in a season where you feel raw, responsible, and still being rebuilt, this conversation is for you.

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Why Not UsBy Dillon Phaneuf / Jamie Paton