Todays guest we have been wanting to get on for a long time, she is probably responsible for all of us doing what we do.

Stef is so encouraging so down to earth no nonsense what you see is what you get, not afraid to show the ugly bit and the fails, doesn’t try to preach just loves to share her knowledge years of growing her own.

If you are part of #gardengram you will have heard of #uglygrid #powerhour #instavillageshow #cofffeeinthegreenhouse all started by Stef.

This year she is stepping out of her comfort zone and doing a Beautiful border at BBC Gardeners World Live bringing together the two very seperate parts of her life gardening and the day job.

Stef also appeared on this year Comic Relief talking about what she does for a living helping vulnerable women.

All in all a fabulous episode chatting to our friend and yours.