In this conversation, Lynne Rienstra discusses her book 'Sacred Refuge: Finding Unexpected Shelter in Your Crisis' with host Terrie Hellard-Brown. They explore themes of grace, faith, and the importance of community during times of crisis. Lynne shares personal stories of her own struggles, including a cancer diagnosis, and emphasizes the significance of finding peace and refuge in God's presence. The discussion highlights the transformative power of perspective in pain and the invitation to deepen one's relationship with God through trials.