What happens when the systems and institutions we depend on start to fail us? In this episode, Norma Wong and guests Nan Stoops and Executive Producer Naʻalehu Anthony explore an important question: can struggling systems continue to deliver? And, if institutions stop working, do we fix the system, or look elsewhere?

From potholes and policy works to the power of simple things, this conversation cuts through the noise of politics and polarization to ask something more fundamental: what can we do at this particular moment? 

P.S. Stay for a Buzz Lightyear reference and a nod to Seattle Mariners fans-people who know a thing or two about loyalty through the long haul!

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