We're living through a moment that demands more than business as usual. So what does it actually look like to interrupt old habits, make consequential choices, and pivot? If evolution begins with us, how do we rise to meet these conditions instead of retreating into what's familiar?

Norma and Nan dig into the nature of courage, habit, and what it really takes to grow.

In this episode:

• Identifying our habits & why interrupting them is an act of courage
• The gift of not taking yourself too seriously
• What community organizer Grace Lee Boggs understood about revolution (and why it still matters). 
• What it actually takes to evolve (and why most of us resist it)

Referenced in this episode:

• Starre Vartan, The Stronger Sex
• The Boggs Center 

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What does it cost when we subtract each other from the equation?

In a world that makes division easy, host Norma Wong and guest Nan Stoops take time to do the math.  This episode adds up the real cost of othering, and makes the case for wholeness as the only equation that works.

In this conversation, Norma and Nan discuss:

• Why Sun Tzu’s teachings on fire speak to this moment of social division
• The difference between worldview and ideology-and why it matters
• What Minneapolis taught us
• Why this generation’s assignment is to choose humanity

If you’re feeling the weight of a divided world and looking for strategies and a sense of purpose, this conversation is for you. 

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What happens when the systems and institutions we depend on start to fail us? In this episode, Norma Wong and guests Nan Stoops and Executive Producer Naʻalehu Anthony explore an important question: can struggling systems continue to deliver? And, if institutions stop working, do we fix the system, or look elsewhere?

From potholes and policy works to the power of simple things, this conversation cuts through the noise of politics and polarization to ask something more fundamental: what can we do at this particular moment? 

P.S. Stay for a Buzz Lightyear reference and a nod to Seattle Mariners fans-people who know a thing or two about loyalty through the long haul!

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Where do you come from? Not just the place, but what are the stories that make you? In this episode, Norma Wong and guest Nan Stoops talk about origins: our personal, collective, and generational stories, and what it means to know where you come from in this moment of overlapping crises. 

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When everything feels like it's falling apart, how do we make sense of this moment? In this first-ever episode, host Norma Wong introduces the purpose of The Horizon Story podcast and how she makes sense of the world around her in a time of collapse. She is joined by Executive Producer Na'alehu Anthony, and they discuss accelerating change, how to handle anxiety, and what it means to meet this moment maka'ala, eyes wide open.

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Exciting news...We are launching a podcast! The Horizon Story with Norma Wong is a new podcast grounded in a Native Hawaiian, Zen, and indigenous worldview.

Each episode shares thought-provoking teachings, conversations, poetry, and humor in the context of complex local and global challenges. Building on the themes in Norma's first two books, "When No Thing Works" and "Who We Are Becoming Matters," The Horizon Story offers fresh perspectives on world events, navigating rapid change, and choosing who we become in this moment.

Starting April 30th, we'll have a new episode every Thursday. This weekly podcast will be available to listen on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and to watch on YouTube. We encourage you to subscribe to The Horizon Story Substack community and connect with others. Learn more and join the Substack at thehorizonstory.com. Stay tuned next week for the first episode!

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