The middle of this discussion features an interview about Human Rights - and how to make money from them. Jonah tries his best to discuss Ralph Ellison's life in essays but mainly reflects on the one which tickled him the most. Come sit in the bookstore for a while. Oh yeah, and Western Thought has a Patreon now. Check it out for episodes removed because of server storage costs that our number of listeners doesn't really justify paying as of yet.