On this episode of Give and Take, Scott Jones talks with David Fitch of Northern Seminary about the fallout of the Protestant Reformation—and why it might be time to reform the Reformers. Five centuries after 1517, Protestants still celebrate courage, conscience, and clarity. But what if the Reformation also unleashed forces it couldn’t control? Fragmentation. Hyper-individualism. A faith untethered from embodied community. A church shaped more by modern politics than by the crucified Christ.

From a neo-Anabaptist perspective, Fitch argues that some of the Reformers’ necessary protests hardened into new distortions—reshaping authority, redefining the church, and quietly baptizing the spirit of modernity. Scott and Dave wrestle with what was gained, what was lost, and whether Protestantism can recover a thicker, more communal, more faithful witness in a polarized age.​

Special Guest: David Fitch.