This one feels like closure and calling at the same time.

After a long season of refining, Dillon and Pastor Jamie sit down to talk about what real forgiveness does to the human heart, how it lifts shame, breaks control, and clears the noise so God’s will can finally be heard.

Dillon shares the story of hearing the words “I forgive you” from his ex-wife and realizing it was the final chain God was waiting to cut. That moment opened the door to forgiving himself, to hearing God’s will louder than his own, and to living far less offended by a world that’s constantly angry.

Jamie brings thirty years of pastoral wisdom on obedience, surrender, and what it means to walk unoffended in a culture addicted to outrage. Together they unpack the difference between our will and His, and why forgiveness is the real evidence of spiritual maturity.

In this episode you’ll hear:

• How forgiveness lifts the cloak of shame and makes peace tangible
• What it feels like when God’s will finally outweighs your own
• The danger of defending the old character God already buried
• Why living unoffended might be the last great spiritual discipline
• How grace, not performance, proves you’re being rebuilt

Scriptures Referenced:
Proverbs 19 : 11 | Romans 12 : 19 | John 3 : 16 | Ephesians 4 : 31–32

If you’ve been carrying resentment, confusion, or the weight of your own will, this episode will show you what it looks like when grace finally takes over.