Editor's note: Lewis and our guest, Ron, were recording from the tasting room at Lightning Rock Winery with customers in the room so you may hear Ron chatting with guests on their way out early in the interview, in case you hear any names that don't sound familiar. That said, the guys have a good chat with Ron about the heavy level of taxation by the BC government, benefits of breaking down interprovincial trade barriers, the general stench of rot in government, and much more!