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Ian Smith, director of business development with the University of Alberta's Faculty of Engineering, talks about personal actions and impactful programs that tie into his own truth and conciliation journey.

Cohosts Jessica Vandenberghe and George Lee talk with Ian about

• moments of revelation
• effective approaches, big and small, to truth and conciliation
• learning to be a musician, responding to criticism and trying again (Ian has a master's degree in music performance from Arizona State University)
• the need for more genuine initiatives and less box ticking
• and much more.

If you're looking for a simple entry point to your own truth and conciliation journey, Ian has a recommendation: "Go get some books. Read Indigenous authors. Read their perspectives. And that helps you understand more truth."

Also, if you've got a spare zero dollars to spend, take the University of Alberta's online Indigenous Canada course, he says.

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