In this conversation, Miles O'Brien and J. Alex Halderman discuss the critical issues surrounding election security, focusing on the importance of trust, the vulnerabilities of local voting systems, and the impact of cybersecurity threats. They explore the implications of razor-thin margins in elections, the challenges of public discourse on election integrity, and the political dynamics that influence election security legislation. The discussion also touches on the effects of bomb threats on voter turnout, the need for better auditing processes, and the future of election technology, including the potential vulnerabilities introduced by systems like Starlink.