Jill Goldson is our first listener that has gotten in touch with us to record her own episode. Jill is the Director of The Family Matters Centre and has over 30 years working to support families, kids and couples. Although her intention was to talk about another subject altogether, with New Zealand now returning to various levels of lockdown due to Covid-19, our host Timothy Giles asks Jill how we cope with challenges of Covid stopping playing in playgrounds, sports fields and perhaps worst of all, in relationships.