In this conversation, Melisa, Saeema, and Clive explore the evolving landscape of design, focusing on the concept of 'redesigning thinking' as a new methodology that extends beyond traditional design thinking. They discuss the importance of service design, the impact of digital technologies and AI on design practices, and the significance of empathy in creating meaningful design solutions. Clive shares insights from his Project Love initiative, emphasizing the role of design in fostering love and empathy in society. The conversation concludes with key takeaways on the value of design and the need for designers to assert their role in shaping the future.