Russell and Esparza discuss their experiences with race in the classroom and how being a male teacher of color has played a role in their careers. The conversation revolves around how their racial identities and that of their students are a vital component of the classroom and the impact it has on students. This reflective conversation also details some of the struggles faced such as how our physical appearance & attire as teachers of color is overemphasized and is directly correlated to how students and staff perceive us.