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Episode 4: The Ethics of Listening to R. Kelly


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In the post #MeToo, post sort-of-revelatory-R-Kelly-documentary era, we're constantly confronted with the question: "Can you separate the art and the artist?" In episode 4, Dane and Kevin address the question head on, and attempt to answer a few more: is it morally permissible to consume art created by morally repugnant individuals? Does listening to an artist like Chris Brown signal our indifference to victims of assault? Should we "cancel" the work of Roman Polanski and Bill Cosby, or should we let the art stand for itself?

Also: Kevin is a self-identified foodie, but does that mean he knows anything about food? Plus: Zac Efron is trash at acting, Drake is a clown, and Now That You Mention It officially has podcast beef with Trevor Noah.

Intro and break music courtesy of Chris Giuliano.

Works Cited:

Aristotle: Rhetoric

Jacob Kuppermann: On the Impossibility of Separating Art from Artist

W.K. Wimsatt and Monroe Beardsley: The Intentional Fallacy

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