This episode dives into the rugged borderlands of New Mexico with upland hunter, educator, and conservation advocate Ray Trejo of Branded Horse Shoe LLC. We talk Montezuma (Mearn’s) quail and what makes them so unique, running big country behind Miller‑line English pointers, and the stories that shaped Ray in the desert around Deming. From quail hunting and dog work to public‑land access, BLM vs. state trust land, and the reality of hunting in border country, Ray helps connect birds, culture, and conservation in a way that will resonate with serious upland hunters and everyday sportsmen alike. We also lean into representation in the outdoor world, the role of Latino voices in conservation, and what it looks like to pass on a legacy of stewardship, faith, and family through time afield.

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