My friend Kathie Sever —the founder of the merry band of chainstitching geniuses at Ft Lonesome joins me again to discuss Helen Palmer’s chapter on type 6. My take away is that 6s are roving confirmation bias seekers/busters. Finding all the facts to support their ideas or finding all the facts that don’t. Also, Kathie’s idea of a knight in shining armor might have to be a series for each number. I love it.

When I said Russ Hudson had a word for 4s, I meant Claudio Naranjo used the word “vindictive”

When Kathie refers to IFS therapy, she is talking about Internal Family Systems therapy

The Jungian podcast we love is called The Salome Institute, led by Satya Doyle Byock (author of “Quarterlife”— an excellent gift for anyone in their 20s).

Tim Urban is the author Kathie refers to — he wrote “What’s our Problem” and Kathie recommends him on Lex Fridman podcast #360

The documentary on the NXIVM cult is called “Seduced”

The parable of the farmer is from the children’s book “Zen Shorts” by Jon Muth

end music is Doubt by Twenty One Pilots