We are joined by Joe Saunders from the managing violence podcast! We have a really great discussion about de-escalation, the reality of violence and how most martial artists aren’t properly prepared to teach violence management.

Check out Joes website for some great material and the details of his upcoming UK seminar tour.

https://www.violencepod.com

*There are a few audio issues with this episode, luckily Joe wasn’t affected so all the great info is still there!

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