Part two of JP’s conversation with Thurl Bailey! The Jazz analyst gives his motivation for playing basketball - Dr. J. Plus, why Rudy guarding Russ is a fascinating tactical move.

A rundown of the episode:

0:25 — #NBACliches

4:25 — Defending the Pocket Rockets

7:10 — Thurl explains why he got into basketball

12:00 — Memories from his first year in the league

16:55 — On John and Karl working out: “It was like a competition between those two.”

25:20 — Joe Ingles and Quin Snyder on Ricky Rubio