Thrive and Shine HR

Episode 45 - 🙌🏼 Don't Just Survive (Again)! Thrive in '25 with Five Powerful Mental-Health Must Haves

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Episode Summary

In this episode of the Thrive and Shine HR podcast, Katherine discusses the critical importance of mental health for HR professionals, sharing her personal journey of overcoming burnout and the essential mental must-haves for success in the field. She emphasizes the need for HR practitioners to prioritize their mental well-being, introduces the Fry Formula

for goal setting, and explores the concept of mind management through neuroplasticity and thought upgrades. The conversation highlights the alarming statistics of burnout in HR and offers actionable insights for improving mental health in the workplace. In this conversation, Katherine Fry discusses the importance of intentional thought choices and the role of curiosity in HR practices. She emphasizes the need for HR professionals to overcome negativity bias, differentiate between motivation and inspiration, and adopt proactive mental health practices. The discussion also covers the significance of understanding emotions, the difference between victim and victor mentality, and the necessity of adult learning and application. Fry introduces The Refresh App as a tool for enhancing mental health and encourages HR professionals to
embrace coaching over advising.


Top Takeaways


  • Mental health is crucial for HR professionals' success.
  • Burnout is a significant issue, with 98% of HR professionals
    • affected.
  • Personal experiences can shape our understanding of mental
    • health.
  • The Fry Formula helps clarify what we truly want in our
    • careers.
  • Mind management is essential for improving mental health.
  • Neuroplasticity allows us to change our thought patterns.
  • Thought upgrades can lead to better emotional outcomes.
  • Setting meaningful goals is vital for mental well-being.
  • Coaching can provide valuable support in mental health
    • journeys.
  • HR professionals must prioritize their mental health to
    • thrive.  Intentionally choosing your
    thoughts informs your feelings and actions.
  • Meditation clears the mind, while thought upgrades are
    • intentional.
  • HR professionals must ask more questions rather than just
    • tell.
  • Negativity bias is a challenge in HR that needs addressing.
  • Curiosity is a vital skill for HR success.
  • Motivation is short-term; inspiration is long-term.
  • Single-tasking is more effective than multitasking.
  • Emotions can be experienced for only 90 seconds; choose
    • thoughts wisely afterward.
  • Understanding victim mentality is crucial for personal
    • growth.
  • Proactive mental health practices can prevent burnout.


    • Chapters

    00:00 Introduction to Mental Health in HR

    03:02 The Importance of Mental Health for HR Professionals

    06:13 Personal Journey: Overcoming Burnout

    09:09 Statistics on Burnout in HR

    11:47 Defining Mental Health and Its Impact

    14:50 The Five Mental Must Haves for HR Success

    17:46 The Fry Formula: What Do You Truly Want?

    20:46 Mind Management and Neuroplasticity

    23:49 Thought Upgrades and Their Importance

    41:14 Intentional Thought Choices

    43:57 Overcoming Negativity Bias

    46:06 Motivation vs. Inspiration in HR

    48:49 The Power of Curiosity

    53:00 Understanding Emotions and Thoughts

    56:59 Proactive Mental Health Practices

    01:00:06 Adult Learning and Application

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