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It’s our first episode back in person, and it’s a big one. We open up about the challenges in our relationship, the philosophy shifts we’ve had in health and life, and why so many people are chasing health the wrong way.
This conversation moves from personal honesty to big-picture truths - how belief systems shape your reality, why unlearning is often harder than learning, and how fear, scarcity, and external noise keep people disconnected from their own energy and intuition.
We dive into spirituality, energy work, and the very human process of habit change, all while reflecting on what it actually takes to create real, lasting transformation.
This episode is for anyone who’s been questioning the industry, feeling stuck in old patterns, or looking for a deeper approach to health, healing, and life itself.
We explore topics like:
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🎧 Chapters
00:00 Our Relationship Challenges and What We’ve Learned
21:15 Belief Systems and How They Shape Your Reality
26:47 Scarcity vs Abundance: A New Philosophy of Living
32:55 Spirituality, Energy Work, and Tuning Into Yourself
39:28 Facing Fear and the Patterns That Hold You Back
45:16 The Role of Trust, Presence, and Connection in Healing
51:43 Creating Real Transformation Beyond Quick Fixes
01:00:12 Closing Reflections and What’s Next
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By Zak & JordanIt’s our first episode back in person, and it’s a big one. We open up about the challenges in our relationship, the philosophy shifts we’ve had in health and life, and why so many people are chasing health the wrong way.
This conversation moves from personal honesty to big-picture truths - how belief systems shape your reality, why unlearning is often harder than learning, and how fear, scarcity, and external noise keep people disconnected from their own energy and intuition.
We dive into spirituality, energy work, and the very human process of habit change, all while reflecting on what it actually takes to create real, lasting transformation.
This episode is for anyone who’s been questioning the industry, feeling stuck in old patterns, or looking for a deeper approach to health, healing, and life itself.
We explore topics like:
💫 Stay Connected
Instagram:
🎧 Chapters
00:00 Our Relationship Challenges and What We’ve Learned
21:15 Belief Systems and How They Shape Your Reality
26:47 Scarcity vs Abundance: A New Philosophy of Living
32:55 Spirituality, Energy Work, and Tuning Into Yourself
39:28 Facing Fear and the Patterns That Hold You Back
45:16 The Role of Trust, Presence, and Connection in Healing
51:43 Creating Real Transformation Beyond Quick Fixes
01:00:12 Closing Reflections and What’s Next
Support the show