In this episode of the Flatlander Kennels Podcast, Chris Jobman and Elliott sit down with longtime friend and retired Air Force veteran John Michael Rohl (aka “Jim”) to relive the wild ride that turned an $800 newspaper puppy into a decorated champion retriever. From their first meeting through a message board in 2008, to Deke becoming a four-time Grand Hunting Retriever Champion and SRS finalist, this episode is full of laughs, lessons, and legendary stories.

They dive into how Jim transitioned from an eager amateur into a professional dog trainer, the challenges of balancing passion and profession, and the realities of building a kennel from the ground up. You’ll hear hilarious behind-the-scenes tales from the hunt test circuit, lessons learned from Deke’s early momentum training, and unfiltered advice for amateurs looking to go pro.

Whether you're in it for the dogs, the laughs, or the wisdom from two seasoned trainers, this story-packed episode delivers it all.