I am honored to have Phil Echols join me for episode 5. Phil and I spoke in person at EdCampWake in March 2017. This is my first in-person interview for the podcast. Phil shares great insights into supporting both students and teachers as they strive to become better.

References from the episode:

Phil on Twitter - https://twitter.com/PhilEchols

Phil’s Website - http://philechols.weebly.com/

The Become Better Website - http://becomebetter.tv/

Phil’s Become Better Podcast - https://soundcloud.com/user-512863928

The problem with that equity vs. equality graphic you’re using - http://culturalorganizing.org/the-problem-with-that-equity-vs-equality-graphic/