This conversation was so fun to have two self-proclaimed “nice guys” talking about how living up to the standard set in a patriarchal society has both helped them and hurt them.

Steve has even transitioned into the life coaching space, primarily helping men from a similar background and mindset to navigate their relationships.

Steve's Website: stevethatchercoaching.com

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