Brian Van Bower speaks with Andy Kaner, MLA, Master CBP, about the challenges of recruiting and training talent in the aquatic design field. They discuss the importance of technical skills like AutoCAD, the growing role of tools such as Revit, and the steep learning curve for designers entering the specialized world of pool engineering, hydraulics, and construction details. The conversation also explores strategies for attracting new talent and highlights how GENESIS® education and certification can help develop the next generation of aquatic design professionals.