As Told To

Episode 54: Rebecca Shaw & Ben Kronengold


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"Voices of their generation. Except for Greta Thunberg. And Malala. Amanda Gorman . . .you know what, I take it back." — Jimmy Fallon

That's high praise for the comedy writing duo of Rebecca Shaw and Ben Kronengold, from their former boss at NBC's "The Tonight Show," where our podcast guests became the two youngest writers in that program's storied history and earned a shared spot on Variety's "Power of Young Hollywood Impact List" in 2021.

Shaw and Kronengold began dating and writing together as freshmen at Yale University and capped their undergraduate career with a 2018 commencement address that went a little bit viral. (Okay, it went a whole lotta viral – their speech was seen by more than 5 million people, and landed them an agent…and, eventually, their "Tonight Show" gig.)

Together, they've just published a disarmingly funny collection of essays, stories, and humor pieces called Naked in the Rideshare: Stories of Gross Miscalculations, which was hailed by actor and comedian Will Ferrell as "incredibly original, bizarre, and funny" prior to publication by William Morrow in November.

Join us as we talk about what it means to find your voice in collaboration with your partner, and to take that voice to one of the most dynamic writing rooms in late night television – and beyond.

Learn more about Rebecca Shaw & Ben Kronengold:

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  • Ben's website
  • Rebecca's Instagram
  • Ben's Twitter
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