In this week’s episode of We Are Out of Office, co-hosts Veteran Television Executive Producer Nikki T and Bestselling Author Jayne Allen return from a brief hiatus — truly out of office — reflecting on travel, geography, healing, and the lessons that appear when you slow down long enough to see them.

Jayne shares insights from a week spent between Los Angeles, Palo Alto, and Stanford, including a striking realization after meeting an Uber driver who moved to Silicon Valley through the green card lottery: sometimes success isn’t just about talent or effort — sometimes it’s geography. Being in the right environment, surrounded by people who believe in ideas, can change the trajectory of what’s possible.

Meanwhile Nikki reflects on a packed week in Los Angeles celebrating Black excellence — from producing a Hollywood Confidential fireside chat with legendary actress Loretta Devine to attending celebrations surrounding the NAACP Image Awards, including honoring powerhouse creator Mara Brock Akil.

From culture and creativity to healing and entrepreneurship, the conversation explores what it means to keep moving forward — even when you’re still figuring things out.

I See You Girl

Jayne honors Susan L. Taylor, the legendary former Essence editor-in-chief whose “In the Spirit” column shaped generations of Black women. A recent interview reminded Jayne of Taylor’s powerful message: you already have everything you need for this journey — even the moments when you lose your way.

Nikki spotlights Wilglory Tanjong, founder of luxury handbag brand Anima Iris, who has launched a bold social campaign asking billionaire philanthropist MacKenzie Scott to invest $1 billion into 1,000 Black women founders. The numbers behind Black women entrepreneurship are undeniable — yet the venture capital funding gap remains staggering.

What We’re On Right Now

Nikki shares how somatic exercises have become part of her healing routine while navigating grief. These small, intentional movements help regulate the nervous system and release stress stored in the body.

Jayne breaks down the surprisingly simple routine behind her ongoing body recomposition journey, including daily eggs for complete protein, intermittent fasting, and consistent movement. Her takeaway: sometimes transformation isn’t about extreme measures — it’s about trusting the process and staying consistent.

Mindin’ My Black Business

Jayne highlights Genesis House in Sedona, a beautiful Black woman–owned wellness estate created by Genesis Lafourcade. The retreat blends sound healing, yoga, restorative practices, and intentional design into a luxury healing experience.

Nikki sends New York listeners on assignment: visit Marquette Restaurant in Chelsea, a Caribbean fine-dining concept by Michelin-starred chef India Doris that deserves far more attention from food lovers and creators alike.

Jesus Take the Wheel

Nikki introduces the internet’s newest relationship horror story: “Alpine Divorce.”

The viral term describes people who take their partner on a hike or into nature… and abandon them there instead of simply communicating that the relationship is over.

The hosts have questions. Many questions.

Health & Healing

Nikki reflects on learning to live in what she calls the liminal space — the hallway between the life you’ve left behind and the life you’re building next. It’s uncomfortable, uncertain, and often where the most important growth happens.

Jayne shares a powerful memory of hearing Iyanla Vanzant speak at Agape during a difficult transition in her own life — and the message that stayed with her: sometimes the darkness of the well is preparation for what comes next.

Both hosts reflect on the challenge — and the radical joy — of trusting the process even when the outcome isn’t visible yet.

What’s Good

Jayne introduces listeners to rising neo-soul artist Johnny Burgos, whose smooth sound blends 90s soul with modern R&B.

Nikki celebrates Michael B. Jordan and the cast of Sinners winning at the SAG Awards, adding momentum to the film’s powerful awards-season run.

Final Word

Jayne’s closing reminder: Show love anyway.

Nikki’s reflection: Sometimes the universe asks you to find peace where you are before it moves you forward.

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