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We are joined on this episode by admitted cheater, local Portland player Jeff Hart, to discuss the dark arts of pinball: The deathsave and it's little brother, the bangback.

We discuss the moves, the ethics of doing them from a player's and operator's perspective, and why they aren't allowed in tournament play.  Alan argues for changes from the manufacturer to disable them, and Alex outs himself as a proud cheater too.

Warning: this is a show made by adults, and adult language is used throughout.

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