Art Ladders: The Creative Climb

Episode 58: Making a Living as an Artist


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Val and Armin's experience highlights an important issue for artists looking for work that allows them to pursue their creative passions. While jobs in art-related professions can provide valuable experience and insights into the art world, they can also be demanding and time-consuming, leaving little time and energy for personal artistic pursuits.

Here are some additional points to consider when seeking employment as an artist:

  • Consider part-time or freelance work: If you're looking for a job that will allow you to continue creating art, consider part-time or freelance work that can be done on a flexible schedule. This can give you the time and space you need to focus on your artistic practice.
  • Look for jobs with creative flexibility: While some art-related jobs can be restrictive in terms of creative freedom, there are others that offer more flexibility. For example, working as a graphic designer or illustrator can allow you to exercise your creative skills while also earning a steady income.
  • Don't be afraid to explore non-art related jobs: As Armin mentioned, sometimes it can be easier to have a job that is completely unrelated to art, in order to leave time and energy for your personal artistic pursuits. Don't be afraid to explore non-art related jobs that offer a steady income and a reasonable work-life balance.
  • Network with other artists: Building relationships with other artists can be a great way to learn about job opportunities and get advice on how to balance work and art. Attend local art events, join online communities, and participate in workshops and classes to meet other artists and expand your network.
  • Prioritize self-care: No matter what kind of job you have, it's important to prioritize self-care in order to maintain your energy and creativity. Make time for rest and relaxation, and don't hesitate to seek support from friends, family, or mental health professionals when needed.
  • Val and Armin enjoy using a casual "coffee talk" style in this episode that includes spontaneous and personal segments. They invite their audience to share their job experiences, which can benefit aspiring artists and provide interesting stories for those already in the field.

    Thank you for listening! 

    Show Notes:

    Valerie Allen's Website

    Armin Mersmann's Website

    Join Valerie's Mentor Group (Second Sunday of Every Month 4pm Eastern.)

    Join Armin's Mentor Group (First Tuesday of the Every Month 6pm Eastern.)

    Here Is Fong Choo's website. He is an award winning potter who does beautiful clay work. Val was thrilled to help pick up his work for an exhibit at Midland Center for the Arts.


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