Windowsill Chats

This week, we're revisiting a favorite conversation from the Windowsill Chats archives with artist and surface designer Abby Jacobs.

As far back as she can remember, making art has been Abby's favorite thing to do—and some of the happiest times in her life have been when she's had a consistent creative routine. Her belief in art-making as a way of life led her to pursue a master's degree in transpersonal counseling and art therapy from Naropa University in Boulder after studying art and psychology/human services as an undergraduate.

Whenever something doesn't feel quite right in her life, Abby asks herself, "Am I making artwork daily?" If the answer is no, she usually knows where to start.

Margo and Abby discuss:

• Why pattern clashing isn't necessarily a bad thing

• Abby's art therapy background and how it influences her creative practice

• The importance of working with clients who feel aligned

• Having a creative outlet beyond paid work

• Navigating client expectations and people-pleasing

• Creating work that feels authentic to you

• What Abby learned from completing a 100-day project

• And much more!

Connect with Abby:

www.abbyjacdesigns.com Instagram: @abbyjacdesigns

Margo is joined by hand-drawn book cover illustrator Nosheen Ahmed for a conversation nearly a decade in the making. Margo first met Nosheen about nine years ago through portfolio reviews, when Nosheen was working as a dentist, raising her children, making art, and trying to find where she fit creatively. After more than 20 years in dentistry, Nosheen has built a career in illustration—bringing together her love of drawing, books, storytelling, and human connection. She and Margo talk about creative reinvention, letting go of the feeling that you're "behind," and realizing that none of the experiences along the way are wasted. They also explore the pressure to find a signature style, how motherhood and dentistry shaped Nosheen as an artist, and why work made by human hands matters in an increasingly AI-driven world.

Margo and Nosheen discuss:

• Reinventing yourself creatively later in life

• Why your past experiences aren't wasted

• Finding your voice without forcing a signature style

• Creativity as a way of living, not just a career

• The importance of empathy and human connection in art

• Why hand-drawn work still matters in an AI-driven world

Connect with Nosheen: Website: nosheendesigns.co.uk Instagram + LinkedIn: @nosheendesigns

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Margo is joined by Melissa Moore and Michele Matrisciani, co-authors of Killer in the Family: The Hidden Costs of Loving Someone the World Hates.

Melissa grew up in Spokane, Washington, and was sixteen when she learned that her father, Keith Jesperson, had been arrested for murder. He was later convicted as the Happy Face Killer. Melissa went on to become a New York Times bestselling author with her memoir Shattered Silence, a domestic abuse prevention advocate, and an Emmy-nominated investigative correspondent for Crime Watch Daily. She hosts the true crime podcast Life After Happy Face and is the real-life inspiration behind the Paramount+ drama series Happy Face, starring Annaleigh Ashford.

Michele is a New York Times bestselling coauthor, a Pushcart Prize nominee, and an editor with more than twenty years in publishing, with an MFA from Stony Brook University. She spent fifteen years as an acquisitions and developmental editor at houses including Macmillan, Hyperion, and McGraw-Hill Trade before founding Bookchic LLC, and her collaborations span Hachette, Penguin, Hay House, and HarperCollins, most recently including Gypsy-Rose Blanchard's memoir My Time to Stand. She has collaborated with Melissa across four books.

For Killer in the Family, Melissa and Michele spent six years with nine families who share something nobody chooses: someone they loved was responsible for something horrific. The book moves the focus away from the crimes themselves and onto the parents, children, siblings, and spouses left to carry the aftermath.

Margo, Melissa, and Michele discuss:

• What it was like for Melissa's story to become public, and the years of shame that came before that
• Why so many people reached out to Melissa afterward with the same message: I'm just like you
• How they chose which families and relationships belonged in the book
• How Michele earned enough trust with nine families to get material this personal
• What Michele could see as an outsider that Melissa, so close to her own story, couldn't always see herself
• How they handled it when two people's memories of the same moment didn't line up
• The responsibility of sending a finished chapter back to the person who lived it
• How families hold love and horror about the same person at the same time
• The role media coverage plays in a family's grief and isolation
• Knowing when it's time to stop telling your story

Killer in the Family is available now in print, ebook, and audiobook wherever books are sold.

Connect with Melissa and Michele:

• https://michelem.net/
• melissa.g.moore on TikTok
• Melissa G. Moore (@melissag.moore)

Margo is joined by Dan Scott, co-founder and CEO of Spotlight Advisory Group, musician, lawyer, and longtime advisor to creatives. After decades spent both making art and advising some of the world's wealthiest individuals, Dan came to a powerful realization: having enormous wealth and experiencing financial freedom are not the same thing.

Today, Dan helps artists, musicians, actors, entrepreneurs, and other creatives use money as a tool to support their purpose rather than a scoreboard for measuring success. His forthcoming book, The Experience of Financial Freedom, explores what it looks like to build a life around creativity, fulfillment, and a deeply personal definition of "enough."

Margo and Dan discuss:

• Why purpose (not money) is the starting point for designing a fulfilling creative life
• What working with the ultra-wealthy taught Dan about the difference between wealth and true financial freedom
• Defining what "enough" looks like instead of constantly moving the goalposts
• Why budgeting can actually be a tool for greater creative freedom
• The tension between making meaningful art and navigating industries built to monetize it
• Letting go of society's default definitions of success, status, and achievement
• Becoming the architect of your own experience through intentional choices
• Thinking about legacy as something you create through the way you live—not just what you leave behind

Connect with Dan:

https://www.theexperienceoffinancialfreedom.com/ https://www.spotlightadvisorygroup.com/ https://www.spotlightadvisorygroup.com/blog

Margo is joined by Louie, better known as Louie's Loops, a self-taught crochet artist, designer, game creator, and founder of Club Crochet. For nearly 20 years, Louie has been turning his love of crochet into an ever-expanding creative world of amigurumi, tutorials, games, characters, and stories—all rooted in curiosity, play, and community.

Margo and Louie discuss:

• Following curiosity and asking "what if?" as a creative practice.

• Turning a self-taught crochet hobby into a career and creative business.

• Challenging the idea of crochet as simply a "craft" rather than an art form.

• Using play and experimentation to stay inspired and avoid burnout.

• Building community through tutorials, storytelling, and shared creativity.

• Expanding ideas beyond one medium into games, characters, animation, and more.

• Creativity and handmade art in an increasingly digital and AI-driven world.

• Bringing 20 years of ideas together through Crochet Goomis and Battle Goomis.

Connect with Louie:

www.TheGoomis.com

www.ClubCrochet.com

www.instagram.com/LouiesLoops

I'm bringing you a preview of the new series of Death of An Artist. In February 2024, celebrated children's book author and illustrator Petra Mathers and her husband, photographer Michael Mathers, mailed letters to dozens of friends and family members to let them know they had died by suicide. Petra and Michael were by all accounts healthy, happy, and in love. Why did they choose to die together? And what did that decision do to the people left to mourn them? Journalists Leon Neyfakh and Alice Gregory set out to interview everyone who got one of Petra and Michael's letters—as one married couple trying to understand another. Through intimate conversations with Petra and Michael's friends and family about their own relationships to aging, grief, death, and the friends they thought they knew, Death of an Artist weaves together a portrait of a community grappling with the Mathers' deaths and the final words they left behind. Done entirely in recordings, Death of an Artist is as much a love story as one about death. Listen to Death of An Artist wherever you get podcasts. And if you want to hear the full story right now, ad-free, you can binge the entire season with a Pushkin+ subscription—sign up on the Death of an Artist show page on Apple Podcasts or at pushkin.fm/plus.

Margo sits down with Daniel Boettcher, founder of The Intrepid Wendell, to explore the intersection of storytelling, craftsmanship, and legacy—and how the most meaningful creative paths are rarely the most straightforward ones. Daniel's journey has taken him through music, law, aspirations of diplomacy, and ultimately, bespoke jewelry design. After a life-changing experience shifted the trajectory of his career, he found his way toward work that allowed him to combine creativity with something he has always been drawn to: people and their stories.

• Daniel's unexpected journey from music and law to diplomacy aspirations and, ultimately, bespoke jewelry design.
• How a life-changing experience redirected his career.
• Why deep listening and personal connection are at the heart of Daniel's design process.
• The stories behind a few deeply personal pieces.
• The idea of an "instant heirloom" and how jewelry can carry family history, memory, love, and meaning across generations.
• Daniel's move from Washington, D.C. to Puerto Rico and how the community and culture of Old San Juan have influenced his creativity.
• What happens when a client feels truly seen and understood by the person creating for them.
• The charming story behind The Intrepid Wendell

Connect with Daniel: www.theintrepidwendell.com www.instagram.com/theintrepidwendell

Margo is joined once again by New York Times bestselling illustrator, artist, and now author Andrea Campos, the creative force behind DreasDoodles. Since her first visit to Windowsill Chats, Andrea's creative career has continued to evolve—from a pandemic doodling practice that began simply as a source of joy to collaborations with Target, Jimmy Fallon, and Jennifer Lopez, and now the release of her very first picture book as both author and illustrator, Tis' the Season for Tamales.

In this conversation, Andrea and Margo get candid about what happens when something you love becomes your livelihood. Andrea shares the deeply personal process of finally telling a story that is entirely her own, inspired by the beloved Latin tradition of gathering for tamaladas, while also opening up about the vulnerability, imposter syndrome, and pressure that can accompany creative success. Together, they explore how artists can protect the joy that brought them to their work in the first place—even while being asked to wear the hats of artist, marketer, content creator, entrepreneur, and everything in between.

In this episode, Margo and Andrea discuss:

• Andrea's evolution from pandemic doodling to becoming a full-time artist, illustrator, and author

• What it felt like to move from illustrating other people's stories to writing and illustrating one that is entirely her own

• The inspiration behind Tis' the Season for Tamales and sharing the tradition of tamaladas through a bilingual picture book

• The reality of imposter syndrome—even alongside major milestones, high-profile collaborations, and public recognition

• Accidentally building a creative business and learning to navigate the good, hard, and complicated parts along the way

• The pressure on today's artists to also be content creators, marketers, editors, and personal brands

• Finding ways to show up and share your work that feel natural to you rather than forcing yourself into someone else's formula

• Using joy as a creative compass and learning how to protect the part of your practice that exists simply because you love making

• The importance of creative community, mentorship, and finding people who understand the unique challenges of building a creative life

Connect with Andrea: https://www.instagram.com/dreasdoodles https://dreasdoodles.com/ https://dreasdoodles.substack.com

Margo is joined by Kim Robinson, founder of 3pts and a longtime contributor to and advocate for creative communities. With more than 15 years of experience at cultural platforms including The FADER, Complex, Red Bull, and the American Museum of Natural History, Kim has worked alongside artists like Solange, Kendrick Lamar, Spike Lee, Erykah Badu, and Tyler, the Creator. Raised within underground punk, hip-hop, electronic music, and art scenes, Kim eventually founded 3pts to put his experience directly in service of makers and creative entrepreneurs, helping them build sustainable careers on their own terms.

Kim and Margo explore what working behind the scenes in music and culture taught him about what artists actually need, why he continues to approach his work as a fan first, and the role community plays in building a sustainable creative life.

Margo and Kim discuss:

• How growing up in DIY punk, hip-hop, electronic music, and art scenes shaped Kim's approach to creativity and community
• What working with major artists and cultural platforms taught him about the realities of building a creative career
• Why Kim leads with a "fan first" mentality and how genuine curiosity has guided his career
• Why community is the invisible infrastructure behind so many successful creative careers
• Moving beyond the myth of the self-made artist and recognizing the people, resources, and relationships that help us grow
• Defining success on your own terms rather than following someone else's blueprint for a creative business
• The value of practical support—from sharing opportunities and resources to having someone a few steps ahead show you what's possible

Connect with Kim: Website: www.3pts.co Instagram: www.instagram.com/3ptsco Substack: 3pts.substack.com A monthly newsletter dedicated to sharing opportunities for makers such as grants, residencies, open calls, markets and more. https://us7.campaign-archive.com/home/?u=eb522373216e8266b4805a156&id=45f83f7c19 Connect with Margo: www.windowsillchats.com www.instagram.com/windowsillchats www.patreon.com/inthewindowsill

Margo is joined by author, creative writing coach, and video creator Abbie Emmons for a conversation about the power of storytelling and why our ability to tell meaningful stories is more instinctive than we might think. Abbie is the author of three novels and YouTube's most-watched creative writing coach, with a community of more than half a million writers worldwide. Margo and Abbie explore storytelling as something fundamentally human, why compelling stories begin with internal conflict, and how we can move beyond rigid rules, perfectionism, and self-doubt to reconnect with our natural creativity. Abbie's nonfiction debut, Make Your Story Matter, releases August 11, 2026.

Margo and Abbie discuss:

• Why storytelling is fundamentally human and helps us make sense of life
• The three pillars of relatable characters: desire, fear, and false belief
• Why internal conflict drives compelling stories and meaningful transformation
• How rules, expectations, and self-doubt can disconnect us from our natural creative instincts
• What neuroscience and creativity research reveal about losing—and rebuilding—creative confidence
• Creating from joy and curiosity rather than trends or external validation
• Moving through perfectionism, overwhelm, fear, and other creative blocks
• How to trust your instincts, reignite your storytelling spark, and create work that matters

Connect with Abbie: www.youtube.com/abbieemmons www.abbieemmonsauthor.com www.makeyourstorymatter.com

Connect with Margo: www.windowsillchats.com www.instagram.com/windowsillchats www.patreon.com/inthewindowsill